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> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Fochtman
> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 11:57 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: OT: Computer Science Education: Where Are the 
> Software Engineers of Tomor...
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> I was talking to a public school teacher in this area (Johnson County 
> Kansas) at a Christmas party about the teaching of math and the "New 
> Math". She said that the school systems here are actually 
> pulling away 
> from New Math, using addition and multiplication table memorization 
> again, and requiring the use of pencils and brains instead of 
> calculators. It's about time.
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> I'l give you the big "AMEN" on that. I've interviewed too 
> many "college 
> graduates" that couldn't read a preface, or balabce their own 
> checkbooks. How do you tell those people that they're nothing 
> more than 
> "Educated Morons" ??

I think the phrase is "functional illiterates".

<quote>
Anyone who cannot cope with mathematics is not fully human. At best he
is a tolerable subhuman who has learned to wear shoes, bathe and not
make messes in the house.
--Lazarus Long, "Time Enough for Love", (Robert A. Heinlein)
</quote>

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John McKown
Senior Systems Programmer
HealthMarkets
Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage
Administrative Services Group
Information Technology

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