Okay, I am going to try to address all the comments and mis-information 
supplied in a single email.

First, as others have correctly identified; the combination of IEFTMS7/3/8 all 
come together when the last time that TMSINIT was run on any system sharing the 
TMC was more then 8-days ago. If the last time TMSINIT ran was AFTER the 
current date (Y2K testing in the 90's for example); then the combination would 
be an IEFTMS5/3/6. The combination of IEFTMS2/3/4 is when the last time TMSINIT 
was run was between 2 and 8 days in the past. Notice the IEFTMS3 is repeated in 
each message; but a different WTOR (IEFTMS4/6/8) is issued depending on the 
situation.

Second (to address Tom's and Richard's complaint) we did realize that IPL's 
were not done on a regular weekly basis at all sites anymore. We added a 
PARM=NODATE to TMSINIT years ago to prevent any WTOR's from being issued. With 
PARM=NODATE, we simply assume the system date is correct and run without any 
WTOR's being issued from TMSINIT. This parameter has been around since at least 
R5.2 (back in the 95 time-frame). 

So, if you want to assume that the system-date is always correct and eliminate 
the WTOR's simply add PARM=NODATE to the TMSINIT proc. 

Russell Witt
CA 1 L2 Support Manager

-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Lizette Koehler
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 12:13 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Differences in IEFTMS7 and IEFTMS8


I am trying to determine what the difference in response to these two CA1 
messages are. The CA1 Messages manual has

IEFTMS7 IPL DATE MORE THAN 8 DAYS FROM LAST IPL
IEFTMS3 PREVIOUS IPL DATE = date
IEFTMS8 VERIFY DATE = date OR 'HELP'
Reason: The current system date is eight or more days beyond the last 
BrightStor CA-1
initialization date.
Action: Enter HIGHDATE to initialize BrightStor CA-1. If the IPL date is 
incorrect, reset
the date and rerun TMSINIT.

But I cannot determine what the differences between the two messages IEFTMS7 
and IEFTMS8.  I think with IEFTMS7 it may not require the HIGHDATE response.   
But does require the HIGHDATE with the IEFTMS8.


Lizette

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