Kees,
The messy part is the manual cleanup of the overflow pools, and having overflow 
data left over.  As you stated, you receive a report of the data that was 
written, and then there is DASD maintenance (CA-Disk at your location, but 
DFHSM or FDR can also be used) which as you stated tries to move the overflow 
data back to the proper pools after the archive process.  Setting the threshold 
to the floor limit would migrate the data if eligible based on management class 
attributes.  The end result is that data is left in the overflow pools.  The 
manual DASD maintenance and any leftover overflow data is the messy part.  You 
could automate a DFDSS copy (or some other data mover) to sweep the overflow 
pool and reallocate the data to the correct pools, but this is extra cycles to 
move data based on a problem.  I like everything to be where it should be based 
upon the management policies the first time around, and I automate everything. 
Just a personal opinion. 

Michael Spencer

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"Spencer, Mike" <mike_spen...@bmc.com> wrote in message
news:<2f58a5338b1c0044abe7d99aac2b6aef3f38c45...@houccrprd01.adprod.bmc.
com>...
> There are many ways.  Creating overflow groups generally get messy
over time because of the nature of the allocations.  There is also
Extended Storage Groups that can be defined in the DFSMS Constructs.
Again, this can become messy over time.  

I don't see anything messy in overflow groups. I use them too. 

Each morming the overflow pool is checked for datasets, a report is
generated and sent to me that data has been allocated in the overflow
pool. Subsequent dasd maintenance (we have CA-DISK) tries to move the
overflown data back to its correct pool, after having archived (migrated
in HSM dialect) the daily data from these pools.

This way, the overflow pool creates a buffer that enables batch to
continue, even over an entire weekend, but alerts us that thresholds
have been reached. This way we are alerted in the morning of the
situation and we have time for our first coffee, a decent evaluation and
cunning solution instead of having to solve this split-second when being
phoned out of our sleep in the middle of the night.

Kees.
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