Michael,

CA-DISK is a functional replacement for HSM, but is technically fully
different from HSM and has different features and dasd management
possibilities. E.g. I don't work with sms/hsm migration limits or
similar.

The detecting, reporting and moving back to the correct pool is fully
part of the daily storage maintenance and all done by CA-DISK and SAS.
All I have to do is read the email and determine if the original storage
pools need to be enlarged or that this is an acceptable incident.

Kees.


"Spencer, Mike" <mike_spen...@bmc.com> wrote in message
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> Kees,
> The messy part is the manual cleanup of the overflow pools, and having
overflow data left over.  As you stated, you receive a report of the
data that was written, and then there is DASD maintenance (CA-Disk at
your location, but DFHSM or FDR can also be used) which as you stated
tries to move the overflow data back to the proper pools after the
archive process.  Setting the threshold to the floor limit would migrate
the data if eligible based on management class attributes.  The end
result is that data is left in the overflow pools.  The manual DASD
maintenance and any leftover overflow data is the messy part.  You could
automate a DFDSS copy (or some other data mover) to sweep the overflow
pool and reallocate the data to the correct pools, but this is extra
cycles to move data based on a problem.  I like everything to be where
it should be based upon the management policies the first time around,
and I automate everything. Just a personal opinion. 
> 
> Michael Spencer
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> 
> "Spencer, Mike" <mike_spen...@bmc.com> wrote in message
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> > There are many ways.  Creating overflow groups generally get messy
> over time because of the nature of the allocations.  There is also
> Extended Storage Groups that can be defined in the DFSMS Constructs.
> Again, this can become messy over time.  
> 
> I don't see anything messy in overflow groups. I use them too. 
> 
> Each morming the overflow pool is checked for datasets, a report is
> generated and sent to me that data has been allocated in the overflow
> pool. Subsequent dasd maintenance (we have CA-DISK) tries to move the
> overflown data back to its correct pool, after having archived
(migrated
> in HSM dialect) the daily data from these pools.
> 
> This way, the overflow pool creates a buffer that enables batch to
> continue, even over an entire weekend, but alerts us that thresholds
> have been reached. This way we are alerted in the morning of the
> situation and we have time for our first coffee, a decent evaluation
and
> cunning solution instead of having to solve this split-second when
being
> phoned out of our sleep in the middle of the night.
> 
> Kees.
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