http://cs.ua.edu/~SECSE08/Papers/Danis.pdf

Rob Schramm
Senior Systems Consultant
Imperium Group




On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 11:43 AM, Phil Smith <p...@voltage.com> wrote:

> John McKown wrote:
> >I somewhat agree (as difficult as that is for me). In today's world, it
> is expected that a worker will just walk in off the street and have the
> "intuitive" knowledge of how to use computers. As much as I dislike it
> personally, z/OS really needs the "new look" interface to present to the
> end users, and even programmers. I wonder if anybody has done a study of
> productivity between "old style" development using ISPF and
> edit-compile-test versus using the RD/z Eclipse based software.
>
> Of course they have...many times. And they all show that IDEs are more
> productive, FVSO "more productive": programs get done faster. Not
> necessarily better, but faster. And it's a positive feedback loop: once the
> IDE is all anyone has used, old-school programming becomes unthinkable.
>
> And that's how we get the instability that is Windows. Not even
> necessarily the Microsoft end of it: a near-infinite number of vendors with
> an infinite number of monkeys banging away at their IDEs, producing
> products that sort of work, but perhaps destabilize the underlying OS (or
> Office, or some other product) may be the real cause.
>
> Of course this is an oversimplification, but when you make programming so
> simple, even a kid can do it, you get programs written by kids.
>
> Even open source, for all its benefits, isn't a real solution: look at the
> plugin-container hack Firefox has resorted to. Is that strictly because
> Flash is so unstable? Chrome doesn't seem to have any significant Flash
> problems (or maybe I just use Firefox more). I'm on the Beta channel of
> Firefox right now because the production version was hanging my Windows 7
> machines (maybe that's been fixed by now, but it *was* true). Worse, I had
> no real way to debug it.
>
> OK, so I sound like a cranky old fart. If the shoe fits...
> --
> ...phsiii
>
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