r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl (R.S.) writes: > No, with *one* blade cabinet of Dell+Windows. HW cost comparable to > spare HMC and two OSA cards.
as mentioned before: max. configured z196 with 80 processors is rated at 50BIPs and goes for $28M ($350,000/processor, $560,000/BIPS, 624MIPS/processor) IBM has base list price of $1815 for e5-2600 blade. There are various processor configurations for e5-2600 (two socket-chip, 8processors/socket-chip, 16processors) ... but some are benchmarked at 527BIPS ... using IBM base price, $113.44/processor, $3.44/BIPS, 33BIPS/processor. Large cloud operator claims of being able to assemble blades at 1/3rd cost of brand name blades potentially has it down to $1.14/BIPS. and from recent thread in "Greater IBM" ... discussion of some of the scaleup/cost issues http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#47 I.B.M. Mainframe Evolves to Serve the Digital World comparing this on-demand supercomputer subset carved out of amazon cloud $4829/hr for 51,132 cores http://arstechnica.com/business/2012/04/4829-per-hour-supercomputer-built-on-amazon-cloud-to-fuel-cancer-research with number of z196s for equivalent BIPS aka 33,801 z196 80 processor machines. the $4829/hr works out to $48M/annum ... less than the $56M cost of two z196s. The cost of 33,801 z196 comes out to around trillion dollars. From yesterday, analysis that IBM sells $5.25M in mainframe software, services and storage for every million in mainframe sales ... making cost of 33,801 z196 closer to $6.25trillion (with software, services, and storage) ... doesn't include building, staff, power, cooling, taxes, etc (which would be included in an amazon cloud costs). this has 1.8kW for z196 MCM http://www.elektor.com/news/ibm-z196-microprocessor-boasts-5-2-ghz-clock-rate.1521411.lynkx .. with 4 MCMs in fully configured or 7.2kW ... just for the MCMs. Fully loaded z196 is 31.7kW http://www-ti.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de/~spruth/edumirror/xx095.pdf 33,801 z196 @31.7kW is then 1,071,491kw or 1,071MW not counting power for cooling, disks and other peripherals. This has 18.7kW for DS8800 http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/at/resources/systems_at_webkonferenzen_ibm_ds8800.pdf at one DS8800 per z196, that would bring it up to 50.4kW and for 33,801 systems would be 1703570kW or 1704MW. Even at 5cents per kwh, just electrical bill would be $85,179/hr compared to $4829/hr for fully loaded price for on-demand supercomputer subset of Amazon cloud. -- virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
