Lindy > And just on her own she could work with everything from USS to JCL with zERO > training in ISPF or JCL or anything. No training. Just looking through docs.
I'm surprised that your friend could work out how to use Unformatted Systems Services just by "looking through the docs". It's rather tricky to realise that you should substitute the name of the application, say TSO or CICS, as the value for the LOGON command and then make the name of the application the default value for the APPLID parameter. Then specify the "assembler" format so that the userid can follow in the case of TSO. At least she doesn't have to think how she might contrive to make the mode table entry name the second positional parameter as I needed to do in order to teach the topic originally! Your friend may actually have strayed beyond the "docs" in picking up an example of this "trick" from the SEZAINST sample member EZBTPUST. This example may also have inspired your friend to get to grips with the 3270 data stream in order to create messages relating to her installation. I see you didn't mention z/OS UNIX as one of the skills your friend learned "just looking through docs". My impression from a couple of weeks in Beijing about 15 years ago - at the time when mooncakes appear! - is that people recruited into technical jobs involving computers are educated in all matters UNIX. Thus acquiring skills in z/OS UNIX - z/OS UNIX Systems Services in full - would not be remarkable. Chris Mason On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 19:00:19 +0000, Lindy Mayfield <lindy.mayfi...@sas.com> wrote: >Tweedledee and Tweedledum _Agreed_ to have a fight. > >Someday soon some language will be the Lingua Chinoise and COBOL will start >looking really "funny." > >I just had the extreme pleasure of helping a colleague from Beijing doing some >installation in z/OS, and she had never seen or touched a mainframe before. >Ever. And just on her own she could work with everything from USS to JCL with >zERO training in ISPF or JCL or anything. No training. Just looking through >docs. > >I explained to her what SYSPROC meant and she got it right away... > >I still cannot believe it, but on the other hand, I it is just a machine. > >I'd love to hear Steve chime in on this, but I never thought I'd see the day >that someone went from knowing a TSO command line's difference from UNIX, or >batch, to ISPF so easily, just like it was, hmmm, what is the word I'm looking >for.... > >A computer? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN