I only have 6 chapters in Version 4.0.0 Edition, August 14, 2009; I take it that I have obsolete copies of the manuals?
-- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 ________________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of scott Ford [idfli...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2020 3:55 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Looking for clarification/guidance on SMTP DD FREE/SPIN Seymour, Rxsock - TCPIP guide for OOrexx Chapter 8 specifically. Scott On Sun, May 17, 2020 at 3:34 PM Seymour J Metz <sme...@gmu.edu> wrote: > > How does one "issue" SPIN=UNALLOC? > > With a DD statement in the JCL. That's part of why I find the text > confusing. > > > What is a "spin SYSOUT data set" other than one with the SPIN keyword or > text unit? > > A spin dataset is a SYSOUT dataset that can be processed before the job > terminates. You can specify it in the JCL, in the dynamic allocation or in > the DYNAMIC unallocation. You can also spin an open SYSOUT dataset with > SETPRT. > > > Documentation semantics aside > > You can't get correct output if you set the semantics aside. > > > How do I allocate an independent track group? > > DALSPIN (X'8013') > > > -- > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > > ________________________________________ > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf > of Charles Mills [charl...@mcn.org] > Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2020 3:11 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Looking for clarification/guidance on SMTP DD FREE/SPIN > > Thanks and agree on the confusing part. > > "dynamically allocate a spin SYSOUT data set ... fail to issue > SPIN=UNALLOC" > > How does one "issue" SPIN=UNALLOC? What is a "spin SYSOUT data set" other > than one with the SPIN keyword or text unit? > > Documentation semantics aside, this could be an issue for me. It is > intended > to be a long-running STC that will send small e-mails infrequently ... but > a > track here and a track there .. pretty soon you are talking real DASD. > > How do I allocate an independent track group? > > Charles > > > -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Seymour J Metz > Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2020 11:50 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Looking for clarification/guidance on SMTP DD FREE/SPIN > > > What options are those? > > "For applications that dynamically allocate a spin SYSOUT data set > (unallocation at Close - Key X'001C') > but fail to issue FREE=CLOSE or SPIN=UNALLOC, JES2 does not free spool > tracks allocated to the spin > data set until the job is purged. In this case, end-of-task processing > deallocates the data set and job > purge processing returns the allocated tracks." > > That text is confusing, since FREE and SPIN are keywords on the DD > statement > and X'001C' is DALFREE, but DALSPIN (X'8013') would seem to be what is > relevant for the allocation. There is a DUNSPIN ('X'8013') on unallocation > that is documented as having the same effect, but if the data set doesn't > already have an independent track group then unallocate can't change that. > I've sent an RCF. > > > -- > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > > ________________________________________ > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf > of > Charles Mills [charl...@mcn.org] > Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2020 11:19 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Looking for clarification/guidance on SMTP DD FREE/SPIN > > > Haven't you switched to CSSMTP? What's the drop dead date on SMTP? > > Nope and I don't know. I Googled <z/os smtp lifecycle> and <z/os smtp eos> > and got no hits. Do you know? > > > Do you want the SPOOL space release after the e-mail goes out? If you do > dynamic allocation then you need to use the right options. > > Thank you. Yes. 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