On S/360, column binary reads each column as two six-bit bytes and stores it as
two eight-bit bytes with high order 0, i,e.,
0-0-12_row-11_row-0_row-1_row-2_row-3_row
0-0-4_row-5_row-6_row-7_row-8_row-9_row
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Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
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Subject: Re: Punched cards and character set
Gentlemen,
First I want to thank you for your explanations, I appreciate it.
It seems I read wrong documentation, that mean the documentation was OK,
but it described older "character sets" than used in S/360 family. I
read many web sites and the most popular description of "IBM code" was
similar to what en.wikipedia shows, also similar to 026 or 029 punch
machines.
Those character set contain 0-9, A-Z and some special characters (like
+#=), but definitely no lowercase alphabetic.
Nevermind I was wrong. Now I see references to full EBCDIC 256
characters. So my questions were based on false assumption and then
irrelevant.
However in the resonses I read several times about "column binary" vs
EBCDIC. What is column binary?
And I sustain query for pictures of JCL statements on the cards. I
collected many card pictures but only one with some // AFAIK incomplete
statement.
What's funny, approx. 21 years ago I was teaching JCL and one of my
student gave me his own job on the cards. Due to other students requests
I i gave them out almost all the cards. Now I have only few, completely
blank (unpunched) cards.
Regards
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Radoslaw Skorupka
Lodz, Poland
W dniu 02.06.2020 o 16:19, R.S. pisze:
> I have never used punched cards, so forgive me my questions.
>
> As far as I know, a character set on punched cards was somehow
> limited, so it is not EBCDIC or similar set of 256 characters.
> Of course that means some limitations for DD * datasets - if coded on
> real punched cards.
> Nowadays I'm pretty sure DD * accept every possible character, as any
> other dataset (with some exception for delimiter). Note, it is program
> independent - this is a change within system (JES2, Interpreter,
> whatever).
>
> Q1: how it was in the past? I mean, were the DD * limited to "punched
> card" character set? Or it was always full EBCDIC if the job was read
> from DASD?
>
> Q2: What about character set on the cards? Was it always one and the
> same within S/360 family? I noted there were several character sets,
> but as far as I understand those set was for other machines
> (Remington, pre-S360 IBM machines, etc.)
> Was there any name for card character set? I mean something like "CP
> 037" or so.
>
>
> And another question, or rather kind request: Does anynone have JCL
> statements on punched cards? I would like to get/download some images
> of JOB, EXEC, and DD statements on punched cards. I have a lot of card
> pictures, but none with JCL.
>
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