Patents are not pathetic. Other companies still make new patents. Including those like Microsoft and Google. Patents are still valid and important even if some company have only few of them or cannot make any.

--
Radoslaw Skorupka
Lodz, Poland







W dniu 11.10.2020 o 18:11, Bill Johnson pisze:
So everything IBM says/does are lies and pathetic?The comedy here is worth its 
weight in gold.


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone


On Sunday, October 11, 2020, 12:08 PM, David Crayford <dcrayf...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

IBM patents are mostly pathetic. They patent stuff like "how to create a
railroad diagram using REXX . It's embarrassing! The likes of Google,
Facebook and even the new Microsoft open source all of their code so
everybody can use it for free. Software patents are nothing more then
bargaining chips. Google doesn't care about who has access to their
code. They give it away for free.

On 2020-10-11 9:31 PM, Bill Johnson wrote:
IBM, as usual, almost always leads the US in patents. This year is no 
exception. Which indicates how intelligent their engineers are. IBM laid the 
groundwork for much of today’s IT.


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone


On Sunday, October 11, 2020, 1:43 AM, zMan <zedgarhoo...@gmail.com> wrote:

Well, big companies ARE using AWS, GCP, and Azure for critical information.
We deal with them every day.

And for the record, I'm hardly an IBM or mainframe basher. I just call out
BS when I see it, like that 1.3M/second. Which you have not responded to.
It was IBM who said they came up with that by taking their largest
customers and extrapolating. Using that methodology, every car is good for
2M miles and gets 80MPG. Oh, and we're all billionaires. See how bad that
approach is?

Now, if the $6B is true, that's fascinating. It still doesn't explain why
the dozens of large mainframe shops we work with NEVER mention IBM when
they talk cloud. Maybe IBM has a few really big clients (.gov)? I don't
know.

Back to processing credit card transactions--again, processors don't use z.
(Well, I can think of a couple that do, but by and large, they don't.)
You're confusing processors, acquirers, issuers, and brands. Those are
different.

On Sat, Oct 10, 2020 at 2:27 PM Bill Johnson <
00000047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

6 billion in cloud revenue latest quarter. About half of AZURE. Looks
bigger than 2% to me.
https://cloudwars.co/cloud-wars-top-10-vendors-world/
Read up.



Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone


On Saturday, October 10, 2020, 1:28 PM, zMan <zedgarhoo...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Bill, you can quote self-serving SHARE fodder all you like, but the fact
remains: IBM cloud is a joke in the industry. Doesn't mean it couldn't
become a player, but that's aspirational at best. That SHARE transaction
quote is nonsense--do the math: 1.3M/sec=112,320,000,000 per day. 112
BILLION. That's 16 transactions per day per person on the planet. Be
serious. That number comes from IBM, was extrapolated by taking their
largest five customers and multiplying by the number of z/OS systems out
there. Lies, damned lies, and statistics and all that, eh?

And plenty of real, serious, multi-billion-dollar companies use AWS, Azure,
and even GCP.

You work for a vendor; you have access to lots of industry knowledge from
the real world, not SHARE or IBM marketing. Talk to your peers. Learn. The
truth is out there.

On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 6:57 PM Bill Johnson <
00000047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

I’ve studied them extensively. I’m an investor. So I really don’t need
the
lecture but I understand that’s what the frequent posters here need to
do.
Large enterprises aren’t building on AZURE & AWS. Lots of smaller
companies
are. Because of the costs. AZURE & AWS are on the way to commoditization.
Because it’s easy to replicate. In fact, AZURE growth is beginning to
slow.
Even with the government contract.


https://venturebeat.com/2020/07/31/probeat-slowing-aws-microsoft-azure-and-google-cloud-revenue-growth-is-a-good-thing/amp/

Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone


On Friday, October 9, 2020, 6:38 PM, Farley, Peter x23353 <
0000031df298a9da-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

Don't believe whoever told you that about AWS.  There are real companies
building real enterprise-level applications on AWS today.

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf
Of Bill Johnson
Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 7:53 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: IBM splitting into two companies

2 completely different markets. AZURE & AWS are consumer market clouds.
IBM is enterprise.


On Friday, October 9, 2020, 5:28 AM, zMan <zedgarhoo...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Actually, Bill, it's pretty clear that you didn't read the report. It's
at
https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://kinsta.com/blog/cloud-market-share/__;!!Ebr-cpPeAnfNniQ8HSAI-g_K5b7VKg!bkn5Ica_-GSgVSVMQhoO-ZwjnqBMD632lXyTKAVvTtc_OWH8fyBG3CcIrbtSWqbpWZCJsA$
and lists the top 5 vendors, comprising more than half the market, and
then
notes that the next ten players--of whom IBM is one--"account for another
26% of the SaaS market".
So IBM has a couple of percent; as I said, that's a joke. Not a major
player.

On Thu, Oct 8, 2020 at 10:04 PM Bill Johnson <
00000047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

Anyone who says IBM cloud is a joke isn’t well informed.
Cloud Market Share – a Look at the Cloud Ecosystem in 2020

|
|
|
|  |    |

       |

     |
|
|  |
Cloud Market Share – a Look at the Cloud Ecosystem in 2020

Deep dive into the Cloud Market Share with tons of data and stats
compared  to explain the different cloud services and identify the
leading cloud  providers.
     |  |

     |

     |





Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone


On Thursday, October 8, 2020, 3:41 PM, zMan <zedgarhoo...@gmail.com>
wrote:

"IBM cloud" is a joke. When anyone talks about cloud, it's AWS, Azure,
maybe GCP. NEVER EVER ONCE IBM.

On Thu, Oct 8, 2020 at 12:24 PM Allan Staller <allan.stal...@hcl.com>
wrote:

Classification: HCL Internal

Don't know anything about this directly, but It actually might help
the "traditional" portfolio by allowing more focus.
The cloud portion can benefit from reduced bureaucracy, so on the
surface,
this is a win-win.

OTOH, how many cloud providers have been hacked to date. I recall
APPLE, AMAZON and I think one more.



-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On
Behalf Of Dave Jousma
Sent: Thursday, October 8, 2020 10:44 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: IBM splitting into two companies

[CAUTION: This Email is from outside the Organization. Unless you
trust the sender, Don’t click links or open attachments as it may be
a Phishing email, which can steal your Information and compromise
your Computer.]

Anyone know any more about this?
--

This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the
addressee and may contain information that is privileged and
confidential.
If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an
authorized
representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that
any
dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have
received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by
e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system.


----------------------------------------------------------------------
For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,
send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN




----------------------------------------------------------------------
For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,
send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

--
zMan -- "I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it"




======================================================================

Jeśli nie jesteś adresatem tej wiadomości:

- powiadom nas o tym w mailu zwrotnym (dziękujemy!),
- usuń trwale tę wiadomość (i wszystkie kopie, które wydrukowałeś lub zapisałeś 
na dysku).
Wiadomość ta może zawierać chronione prawem informacje, które może wykorzystać 
tylko adresat.Przypominamy, że każdy, kto rozpowszechnia (kopiuje, rozprowadza) 
tę wiadomość lub podejmuje podobne działania, narusza prawo i może podlegać 
karze.

mBank S.A. z siedzibą w Warszawie, ul. Senatorska 18, 00-950 
Warszawa,www.mBank.pl, e-mail: kont...@mbank.pl. Sąd Rejonowy dla m. st. 
Warszawy XII Wydział Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sądowego, KRS 0000025237, 
NIP: 526-021-50-88. Kapitał zakładowy (opłacony w całości) według stanu na 
01.01.2020 r. wynosi 169.401.468 złotych.

If you are not the addressee of this message:

- let us know by replying to this e-mail (thank you!),
- delete this message permanently (including all the copies which you have 
printed out or saved).
This message may contain legally protected information, which may be used 
exclusively by the addressee.Please be reminded that anyone who disseminates 
(copies, distributes) this message or takes any similar action, violates the 
law and may be penalised.

mBank S.A. with its registered office in Warsaw, ul. Senatorska 18, 00-950 
Warszawa,www.mBank.pl, e-mail: kont...@mbank.pl. District Court for the Capital 
City of Warsaw, 12th Commercial Division of the National Court Register, KRS 
0000025237, NIP: 526-021-50-88. Fully paid-up share capital amounting to PLN 
169.401.468 as at 1 January 2020.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,
send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Reply via email to