Did you want them to wait for someone else to patent it and have an expensive court battle to invalidate it?
-- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 ________________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> on behalf of Wayne Bickerdike <wayn...@gmail.com> Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2020 6:14 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IBM splitting into two companies IBM have a patent on the SORTL instruction. I guess they are entitled to do that but IMHO what it does is hardly new. How it does it, perhaps. I wish I had patented run flat tires. It was my idea many years ago. On Mon, Oct 12, 2020 at 5:14 AM Seymour J Metz <sme...@gmu.edu> wrote: > The broken US patent system forces IBM to take out defensive patents, and > they're far from the only ones to do so. Note that if USPTO denies the > paten as prior art or as obvious to a practitioner, that blocks anybody > else from patenting it, which achieves IBM's objective. > > IBM is far from the only company with a portfolio of defensive patents. > > > -- > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > > > ________________________________________ > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> on behalf > of David Crayford <dcrayf...@gmail.com> > Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2020 9:40 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: IBM splitting into two companies > > IBM patents are mostly pathetic. They patent stuff like "how to create a > railroad diagram using REXX . It's embarrassing! The likes of Google, > Facebook and even the new Microsoft open source all of their code so > everybody can use it for free. Software patents are nothing more then > bargaining chips. Google doesn't care about who has access to their > code. They give it away for free. > > On 2020-10-11 9:31 PM, Bill Johnson wrote: > > IBM, as usual, almost always leads the US in patents. This year is no > exception. Which indicates how intelligent their engineers are. IBM laid > the groundwork for much of today’s IT. > > > > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > > > > > On Sunday, October 11, 2020, 1:43 AM, zMan <zedgarhoo...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > Well, big companies ARE using AWS, GCP, and Azure for critical > information. > > We deal with them every day. > > > > And for the record, I'm hardly an IBM or mainframe basher. I just call > out > > BS when I see it, like that 1.3M/second. Which you have not responded to. > > It was IBM who said they came up with that by taking their largest > > customers and extrapolating. Using that methodology, every car is good > for > > 2M miles and gets 80MPG. Oh, and we're all billionaires. See how bad that > > approach is? > > > > Now, if the $6B is true, that's fascinating. It still doesn't explain why > > the dozens of large mainframe shops we work with NEVER mention IBM when > > they talk cloud. Maybe IBM has a few really big clients (.gov)? I don't > > know. > > > > Back to processing credit card transactions--again, processors don't use > z. > > (Well, I can think of a couple that do, but by and large, they don't.) > > You're confusing processors, acquirers, issuers, and brands. Those are > > different. > > > > On Sat, Oct 10, 2020 at 2:27 PM Bill Johnson < > > 00000047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > > >> 6 billion in cloud revenue latest quarter. About half of AZURE. Looks > >> bigger than 2% to me. > >> > https://secure-web.cisco.com/1Cp3i2g4xxv5xAiOhNSH9asQgAtxabZeedP72s34Yoy97MA2TNpgZziu32XKk2j51vj3MjoslYkPKOMVBdfmKAcrRkVKxyzoNx1chEh1FhL8AWcQRTCiE42bfCYv1oSv6x33vpt3EI6LMjmirQKq9HB5ds4CfTz-I-Br9WAJkn0N_8ol-EGR8zbkpGlT7uQ_on1wTZQz1cvYQ35YWKGGX5qoNYz2VHWbBkuv4cxcyVaFWBrmdYVSDRswyIQybcXkjo3AXzCLg1n-3V84PWF0PgohuVLen_PPSYLGpU0W3-FNPcMwDexPYlKIQ-VMdqJ_WWgZoAr2qOPJ4GXnj0PadbBKgZnNQIiVF-Nh1AkV8iRsRQ-lxzuneKseiVgBSMLEmd-PxYqzfYps5E4CWuaCK8NvZ5vckiQt2FluZBDc3Bg8s9yrv3CXGmkxn1P9NlJzvvAqUvdiD6xXivnfWi7aHSQ/https%3A%2F%2Fcloudwars.co%2Fcloud-wars-top-10-vendors-world%2F > >> Read up. > >> > >> > >> > >> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > >> > >> > >> On Saturday, October 10, 2020, 1:28 PM, zMan <zedgarhoo...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >> Bill, you can quote self-serving SHARE fodder all you like, but the fact > >> remains: IBM cloud is a joke in the industry. Doesn't mean it couldn't > >> become a player, but that's aspirational at best. That SHARE transaction > >> quote is nonsense--do the math: 1.3M/sec=112,320,000,000 per day. 112 > >> BILLION. That's 16 transactions per day per person on the planet. Be > >> serious. That number comes from IBM, was extrapolated by taking their > >> largest five customers and multiplying by the number of z/OS systems out > >> there. Lies, damned lies, and statistics and all that, eh? > >> > >> And plenty of real, serious, multi-billion-dollar companies use AWS, > Azure, > >> and even GCP. > >> > >> You work for a vendor; you have access to lots of industry knowledge > from > >> the real world, not SHARE or IBM marketing. Talk to your peers. Learn. > The > >> truth is out there. > >> > >> On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 6:57 PM Bill Johnson < > >> 00000047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > >> > >>> I’ve studied them extensively. I’m an investor. So I really don’t need > >> the > >>> lecture but I understand that’s what the frequent posters here need to > >> do. > >>> Large enterprises aren’t building on AZURE & AWS. Lots of smaller > >> companies > >>> are. Because of the costs. AZURE & AWS are on the way to > commoditization. > >>> Because it’s easy to replicate. In fact, AZURE growth is beginning to > >> slow. > >>> Even with the government contract. > >>> > >>> > >> > https://secure-web.cisco.com/1glB2SmzemhcwK69MfAyoUKDhG1ntl9CtY11twTQichU0sTA3Q0es33FTYpO6k47SnyNbsKK7FSV1U0VfeE_EpNMoFUIeUhqHHOz2OYgKmzLkAdL1ngQS3ca5S9CLT1tGINOF-fLYT0d2c_VbDlU_HZSoX2zNIw8pY_5XS_VHySeDQ42WJEnoHJ8vfsNYYXnfUm8lrRBcV1o0pv74HCfSImxFxMjcH-3LppRgKzm5ORaSIUtSK-dPJaLL5e7y_fhYqbaqzwEAv0KM7PmYNVm3gwCR4JalSJoc7NXgCZoiabkwV7NZK0dRwkQZzNNDHcV6T4BoWpAI7_y57sxdMaULrz4od9Am8Ku7hMndaXSixwTAUA0itEIpJGAX5WYsIRq8sKTtcTu1j6b2O60Lg0a6PlCrkqGyr5WvMRNp5ENVlCpuQm3LdX5vI7_DSXZDoybB/https%3A%2F%2Fventurebeat.com%2F2020%2F07%2F31%2Fprobeat-slowing-aws-microsoft-azure-and-google-cloud-revenue-growth-is-a-good-thing%2Famp%2F > >>> > >>> > >>> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > >>> > >>> > >>> On Friday, October 9, 2020, 6:38 PM, Farley, Peter x23353 < > >>> 0000031df298a9da-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > >>> > >>> Don't believe whoever told you that about AWS. There are real > companies > >>> building real enterprise-level applications on AWS today. > >>> > >>> Peter > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On > Behalf > >>> Of Bill Johnson > >>> Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 7:53 AM > >>> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > >>> Subject: Re: IBM splitting into two companies > >>> > >>> 2 completely different markets. AZURE & AWS are consumer market clouds. > >>> IBM is enterprise. > >>> > >>> > >>> On Friday, October 9, 2020, 5:28 AM, zMan <zedgarhoo...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >>> Actually, Bill, it's pretty clear that you didn't read the report. It's > >> at > >> > https://secure-web.cisco.com/1IwdBNJrdzNv1e7wSgAN2uOHLs7xgnySc2nEQbL3szEfADHpALFuRpAYZmz5bRjBe7ojh6udKuMkjEBpBJrHI2HRGMA6TqigjLxHN-3eSt4xiIaR9BuOh18iAal_RvBEA5zrqwPqHdZYMGVahz9mJ53Cp8Uc6O2Dul4yMsX-41oTBTSPYXrM0m9oDzopp6zb6GimpnH8_XBzYn21TIk2TR9zmYgbu5NUsFziW9IF_wQ_CbpTAaOM1U_VYMG6QGjtlkUn06BtYuKrF0aff4zY5FwtGdTrmEEgxBXcNI1wUmCHdPoKE82Y1YHWVKZqkJ1KNR9qpSogy85j5yDYUv3LV--OB6Cn6zJvNZd_2POD_YiXXaPHyU6iyYOrxSCL_Dsok5tIAY83gZBj9GyuT5FUCIOK5mFhW67DFunqgd46b2YuINdSGT0i1t6yJS8XDMYh7/https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.com%2Fv3%2F__https%3A%2F%2Fkinsta.com%2Fblog%2Fcloud-market-share%2F__%3B%21%21Ebr-cpPeAnfNniQ8HSAI-g_K5b7VKg%21bkn5Ica_-GSgVSVMQhoO-ZwjnqBMD632lXyTKAVvTtc_OWH8fyBG3CcIrbtSWqbpWZCJsA%24 > >>> and lists the top 5 vendors, comprising more than half the market, and > >> then > >>> notes that the next ten players--of whom IBM is one--"account for > another > >>> 26% of the SaaS market". > >>> So IBM has a couple of percent; as I said, that's a joke. Not a major > >>> player. > >>> > >>> On Thu, Oct 8, 2020 at 10:04 PM Bill Johnson < > >>> 00000047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Anyone who says IBM cloud is a joke isn’t well informed. > >>>> Cloud Market Share – a Look at the Cloud Ecosystem in 2020 > >>>> > >>>> | > >>>> | > >>>> | > >>>> | | | > >>>> > >>>> | > >>>> > >>>> | > >>>> | > >>>> | | > >>>> Cloud Market Share – a Look at the Cloud Ecosystem in 2020 > >>>> > >>>> Deep dive into the Cloud Market Share with tons of data and stats > >>>> compared to explain the different cloud services and identify the > >>>> leading cloud providers. > >>>> | | > >>>> > >>>> | > >>>> > >>>> | > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Thursday, October 8, 2020, 3:41 PM, zMan <zedgarhoo...@gmail.com> > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> "IBM cloud" is a joke. When anyone talks about cloud, it's AWS, Azure, > >>>> maybe GCP. NEVER EVER ONCE IBM. > >>>> > >>>> On Thu, Oct 8, 2020 at 12:24 PM Allan Staller <allan.stal...@hcl.com> > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Classification: HCL Internal > >>>>> > >>>>> Don't know anything about this directly, but It actually might help > >>>>> the "traditional" portfolio by allowing more focus. > >>>>> The cloud portion can benefit from reduced bureaucracy, so on the > >>>> surface, > >>>>> this is a win-win. > >>>>> > >>>>> OTOH, how many cloud providers have been hacked to date. I recall > >>>>> APPLE, AMAZON and I think one more. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On > >>>>> Behalf Of Dave Jousma > >>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 8, 2020 10:44 AM > >>>>> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > >>>>> Subject: IBM splitting into two companies > >>>>> > >>>>> [CAUTION: This Email is from outside the Organization. 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