Nice story. However I think the discussion is limited to IT status auditing.
ITschak ITschak Mugzach *|** IronSphere Platform* *|* *Information Security Continuous Monitoring for z/OS, x/Linux & IBM I **| z/VM coming soon * On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 6:49 PM Bill Johnson < 00000047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > I worked for a company 30 years ago that at the time was part of the > largest fraud in corporate history. The CEO and executives had 2 sets of > books. The auditors were actively involved with the fraud. Anyone who has > been around for a few decades remembers that a number of the big 6 auditing > firms were involved with fraudulent corporate activities. The company was > Phar Mor. The CEO was Mickey Monus who went to prison for 10 years. The > auditing firm was Coopers and Lybrand. I worked with some of the people > from Deloite who came in to help clean up the bankruptcy that ensued from > the fraud. I ran reports using Easytrieve to tally up the almost 500 > million in debt we had no intention of paying. Many of the "auditors" who > were running around the corporate office like rats in a sinking ship were > only there to extract $200 an hour from the Debtor in Possession financing > that bankrupt companies acquire. The one "auditor" I worked with was barely > out of college and was computer illiterate. Her accounting skills were > limited as well. > IBM fanboy > > On Tuesday, February 23, 2021, 9:40:02 AM EST, Radoslaw Skorupka < > r.skoru...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > W dniu 23.02.2021 o 00:44, Radoslaw Skorupka pisze: > > W dniu 21.02.2021 o 19:55, Paul Gilmartin pisze: > >> On Sun, 21 Feb 2021 18:23:03 +0100, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: > >>>> ... > >>>> When the only tool you've mastered is printscreen, everything > >>>> looks like a bitmap. > >>> That was the requirement: to make Windows printscreen - a bitmap. > >>> Did I forgot to mention it's plain stupid? > >>> > >> You mentioned that the volume requested was plain stupid. > >> > >> A possible justification for a bitmap beyond the requestor's ignorance > >> is that your setup involves an elaborate macro for an emulator not > >> supporting capture as text. > >> > >> And the emulator authors' justification for not supporting text capture > >> is that resources are better spent supporting that macro language > >> given that the OS supports graphic capture. > >> > >> But we were using Hummingbird Exceed which has text capture. > >> Simply, most users didn't care to learn the technique. > > > > No! > > No, and no! > > You assumed the auditor know the details and understand what emulator is. > > That's plain wrong. > > I learnt many years ago such auditors are uneducated, but they mask > > their ignorancy with some mask. This is complex topic, I cannot > > describe it clearly in English. > > Explanation: I should say *some* auditors are so uneducated. Or "there > are such auditors". There are also reasonable auditor, and even with > very small or none mainframe knowledge they may do quite good job. > Of course it depends on who's paying for the audit and what the > expectations are. First - managers don't want to spend money if they do > not have to. So, usually the audits are mandatory and main goal (the > only goal) is to pass it with good result. > > > -- > Radoslaw Skorupka > (looking for new job) > Lodz, Poland > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
