A defensive patent is when you patent something that should not be patentable, for the sole purpose of preventing others for patenting the same "invention". It's a lot less expensive then having to defend an infringement claim, even if you eventually get that patent invalidated. It wouldn't be necessary if the USPTO did a better job of detecting "inventions" that are prior art or obvious to practitioners.
-- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 ________________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of David Spiegel [dspiegel...@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 23, 2021 6:05 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Programs that work right the first time. Hi R'Shmuel AMV"SH, "defensive" ... What exactly are you asking? If you mean military-related, the answer is no. Regards, David On 2021-08-23 05:45, Seymour J Metz wrote: > IBM defensive patent? > > > -- > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmason.gmu.edu%2F~smetz3&data=04%7C01%7C%7C53b9ec4203844e4c803508d9661ad7b5%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637653087771078604%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=HzMbJ4Y9LMqWRfleXpkjq9hUdIQjf7esUMNVmcDjCQQ%3D&reserved=0 > > ________________________________________ > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of > David Spiegel [dspiegel...@hotmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2021 6:15 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Programs that work right the first time. > > Hi Bill, > "... "Programming” in REXX, CLIST, and similar types of languages is > hardly programming. ..." > > Maybe you should tell that to the US Patent Office in Washington, DC. > They can then invalidate my patent retroactively. > > Please see: > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsecure-web.cisco.com%2F1NAfNN0bBf0F03jaPEgGJYSfqV4IVVUQJrViCktXMVnNTwsMUp0gbPJuunPtMGtdUrmIY9QlqZZDzNKyliUjrO1n2Sz08vZtedb9Rfprp33qR6yYLNCJjp20hV4rY90fIhDaV5yY0J7AZhq67Ss4t4N2CYtriUg4HCfmsCyY-yAa89x89MyLqKZETeeD2HeSfML6qbDoOa4RUq1wTHen2QuIyZDLAOSrawSkOFnatRZEwYKUHNhPR-mY4sloqJOSsK8OiXB-D0m4idCDBfPF3CB9V19Z-c6iWWo0wE-L30QQMZNSk8hngcn9eX-IwhgduZ_HR9ZthzgwYemSvLNEllVcS2beUpLrqpfjm42fwLfZcfW69UhTV6dvyoi98pzyQT9XFB0-9gDuieP_kVrHWny1cnZ_zXL7Mjn_lUhW1Y84-SwtoEnjWqdEFU44F2K5lE0kshZiSJAwK_WUy-Gvimw%2Fhttps%253A%252F%252Fpatents.justia.com%252Fpatent%252F8261255&data=04%7C01%7C%7C53b9ec4203844e4c803508d9661ad7b5%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637653087771078604%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=LDOxC0uglmGaNLYZHIpLx5HT2pfyHKAWwSxrcb8inCk%3D&reserved=0 > > Regards, > David > > On 2021-08-21 21:51, Bill Johnson wrote: >> “Programming” in REXX, CLIST, and similar types of languages is hardly >> programming. Real programming is hundreds or thousands of lines of COBOL, >> with IMS, DB2, or CICS calls. I was pretty damn good too. Started off in >> COBOL/IMS 4 decades ago. Did a little bit of COBOL/CICS and quite a bit of >> COBOL/DB2 later. Try putting together the necessary code to drill down a >> hierarchical database like IMS. >> >> >> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone >> >> >> On Saturday, August 21, 2021, 9:31 PM, Bob Bridges <robhbrid...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> This part of the thread got me thinking. How often do you write a program >> that works right the first time, with no compile or execution errors? I'm >> not talking about two-liners, of course, or even ten-liners; let's say 30 or >> thereabouts. Please specify the language, too, since it seems to me they >> vary in error-prone-ness. >> >> I've done it occasionally, but by "occasionally" I mean "less than one time >> in twenty"; maybe much less, I'm not sure, and only once in my life when >> anyone was watching. That was in PL/C; mostly nowadays I write in REXX and >> VBA. >> >> In fact my REXXes typically start out with at least ten or fifteen lines of >> boilerplate, and any VBA/Excel program likely relies on a raft of common >> functions and/or objects that are part of my regular library, so when I say >> "30 lines", some of those lines don't really count. >> >> --- >> Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 >> >> /* The schools of ancient morality had four cardinal virtues: justice in >> human relations, prudence in the directions of affairs, fortitude in bearing >> trouble or sorrow, temperance or self-restraint. But they knew nothing of >> mercy or forgiveness, which is not natural to the human heart. Forgiveness >> is an exotic, which Christ brought with Him from Heaven. -F.B.Meyer */ >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf Of >> Tom Brennan >> Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2021 13:41 >> >> ....one of my other supervisors/teachers would tell me about her application >> experience. She said no matter how complex her COBOL programs were, they >> would not only compile first time but would run perfectly. This of course >> was due to her rigorous desk-checking which I assume took days. >> >> I remember thinking "that's crazy" but I just kept quiet. I'll give her a >> break because that could have been at the time of card punching where such >> desk-checking made far more sense. >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN >> >> >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN >> . > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > . ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
