Back when we had a Business Partner, they handled such questions for us, and 
were usually able to help

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> Subject: Re: Licensing a back-level z/OS
> 
> When you "just called IBM" was that the actual IBM Corporation?
> 
> Their sole point of "IBM" contact seems to be a Business Partner. I figured
> out that when they say "IBM said" they mean the BP said. And apparently
> the
> BP has told them "no way." Perhaps they are confused, perhaps the BP is
> tired of them, perhaps the BP wants to sell them new hardware; I don't
> know.
> 
> Can they go around the BP and open a dialog with "real IBM"? How?
> 
> Charles
> 
> 
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> Behalf Of Tony Thigpen
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> Subject: Re: Licensing a back-level z/OS
> 
> We have done it on multiple occasions for 'way back' releases. Another
> guy in my org just called IBM and told them our problem. Now, only in
> one case did we need tapes and happily IBM was able to send them to us.
> 
> Tony Thigpen
> 
> Charles Mills wrote on 10/22/21 12:52 PM:
> > I have a client who has a customer that is in a pickle. Yes, of their own
> > making, but it is what it is. Government agency, limited budgets, long
> > procurement cycles, personnel constraints, etc. They are running z/OS
> V1R10
> > on a z114. They now have an urgent need to be able to run COBOL 6
> > executables. (Yes, there is a longer story here, but I think I have
> covered
> > the technical essentials.)
> >
> > COBOL 6 executables absolutely require LE V2R1 or above. (Someone
> please
> > correct me if I am wrong.)
> >
> > The z114 will support up to z/OS V2R2. V2R2 is of course withdrawn from
> > marketing. Can I get some help here? What are the chances that they could
> > obtain V2R2 media? Can anyone help me out? There is no desire to run
> pirated
> > software. Is there any route by which one obtains a license from IBM for
> > back-level z/OS?
> >
> > One bit of good news: They are running V1R10 under VM so it would be
> > possible to install a new instance of V2R2; it is not necessary to upgrade
> > their running system.
> >
> > Any other suggestions -- other than don't get yourself into pickles --
> would
> > be welcomed. The use of an off-premises box does not appear to be a
> good
> > option because the COBOL 6 executables will have to read and update data
> > sets that are also used by online systems running on the existing V1R10 --
> > although not necessarily simultaneously.
> >
> > Feel free to respond off-line if appropriate. Charlesm at mcn dot org
> 
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