Yes.  This method should never have been used.  Unfortunately it has been used, 
so I need to find out what jobs are depending on the behavior so they can be 
fixed to no longer do so.
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Charles Mills <charl...@mcn.org>
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Hmmm, obviously there are potential gotchas like dynamic allocation, but
basically if job 1 has file 2 DISP=NEW or OLD then job 2 should not run at
the same time.

Do you have a job scheduler? Don't they solve this kind of situation more
elegantly?

Charles


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Subject: Re: JES2 DUPL_JOB parameter

I know for a fact that we have some jobs that depend on DELAY, because I
turned on NODELAY and it caused an issue.  Two jobs with the same name are
submitted at the same time (or one after the other), where job 1 copies a
file to a second file, and job 2 copies the second file to a third file.
With NODELAY they ran "at the same time" so the copy from file 2 to file 3
failed because the copy from 1 to 2 was still running.

That's why I want to be able detect this and make changes before going back
to NODELAY.
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Radoslaw Skorupka <r.skoru...@hotmail.com>
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Subject: Re: JES2 DUPL_JOB parameter

W dniu 03.03.2022 o 20:17, Frank Swarbrick pisze:
> I've long (ever since we started our migration from VSE to z/OS in 2008)
disliked the default of DUPL_JOB=DELAY, but I was overridden in setting
NODELAY because of the "it's always been this way" attitude, and lack of
desire to determine if there were any dependencies on the behavior.
>
> I am curious (but not hopeful) if there is anything available to log or
otherwise note when a job is delayed because it has the same name as a job
that is already running.  Specifically, I am looking to find processes that
depend on the DELAY behavior.

I think System Automation could note such event, however if you don't
want this setting then why do you keep it effective?

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Radoslaw Skorupka
Lodz, Poland

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