I did have an interesting conversation with a customer recently where given ESG 
they wanted to move relevant workload to zLinux because the power / VM / 
container ratio was lower than an x86 farm to lower their carbon footprint; I’m 
not sure if this is an edge case or not.

For many Z customers they do want their supporting software on their platform 
to ensure that they have control over those services.  Again, its a personal 
choice.  My strategy is to move all functions that do not need to run in z/OS 
available in containers on any platform the customer chooses to optimize their 
cost on Z.   

Exciting times.

Matt Hogstrom
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> On Apr 25, 2022, at 23:29, David Crayford <dcrayf...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> On 26/4/22 01:03, Matt Hogstrom wrote:
>>> Given this constraint, we try to put CPU-intensive activities (such as code 
>>> page conversion) on the faster-executing platforms.
>> and for that reason zCX is very important for ISVs because it does offload 
>> to Ziips, provides an open technology platform and for customers that do not 
>> have vZM or IFLs we can deliver software easier using a familiar CI/CVD 
>> pipeline.
> 
> The elephant in the room is that almost all customers will have x86 platforms 
> available and it's trivial to stand up VMs using automation such as Red Hat 
> Ansible. I suppose it comes down to politics again. The mainframe folks at 
> some sites may be determined to run everything on z. That's not my experience 
> with our customers who use our streaming products. They all run Splunk, 
> Elastic, Kafka stacks on x86 and there's practically zero chance of them 
> moving to z. I'm not knocking zCX. I think it's a great solution and can see 
> a lot of use cases where it makes sense both technically and economically. 
> I'm just highly dubious that running medium/large distributed software stacks 
> is one of them.
> 
> 
>> 
>> Matt Hogstrom
>> m...@hogstrom.org <mailto:m...@hogstrom.org>
>> 
>> "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.” 
>> - Hanlon’s Razor
>> 
>>>> On Apr 25, 2022, at 12:44 PM, Ed Jaffe <edja...@phoenixsoftware.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> The z/OS version is not zIIP-eligible and is therefore running on 
>>> knee-capped CPs in our environment. When running on Linux for Z it runs on 
>>> an IFL which is fast (and SMT-threaded). The Linux for x86 version is also 
>>> fast (and hyper-threaded). Given this constraint, we try to put 
>>> CPU-intensive activities (such as code page conversion) on the 
>>> faster-executing platforms.
>> 
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