Yes, "keyed BDAM" was (and is) a supported (if little used these days) access 
method.  AFAIR, "keyed BDAM" was one of the 3 file types supported by PL/1 F 
"REGIONAL" files.

Peter

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PINION, RICHARD W.
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Non-relative track address BDAM used it to, right?

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Yes, ISAM positively did use hardware keys.  BTDTGTTS, and I do mean scars.

Peter

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Steve Smith
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VSAM does not use hardware keys.  What I know of that does are PDS directories 
(KL=8) (not PDSE), VTOCs (KL=44), SYS1.BRODCAST (KL=1), and just heard about 
PASSWORD.  They are (of course) available for user application with BDAM 
(Google suggests I meant "BDSM"... almost appropriate ;-).  I don't know 
whether ISAM ever used them.

They're basically a relic from when DASD was much much slower, and much more 
expensive.

sas


On Thu, May 12, 2022 at 3:04 PM Tom Brennan <t...@tombrennansoftware.com>
wrote:

> Yes... Now that you mention it, I do remember the key in PDS 
> directories, but I never worked with those others directly.  Do VSAM 
> datasets use disk keys?

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