Classification: Confidential If you have dfHSM (and/or I presume CA-DISK (formerly DMS/OS))) merely add them to the processing. I am sure dfHSM will tell you everything needed via error messages in the migration and backup logs. I presume CA-DISK will do the same.
HTH, -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf Of Jack Zukt Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2022 3:00 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Finding uncatalogued datasets [CAUTION: This Email is from outside the Organization. Unless you trust the sender, Don't click links or open attachments as it may be a Phishing email, which can steal your Information and compromise your Computer.] Hi, Thank you for the suggestion The why I am going through DCOLLECT records at this point it is precisely because of the wasted space due to datasets that have not been used for over a year (at least). It was going through this records that I became aware of the existence of uncatalogued datasets. That is why I am trying to come up with a process that can find them, so I can dispose of them. And I want it to be as simple and standard as possible. Regards Jack On Sun, Jul 24, 2022, 03:55 <David> <Mingee> <ming...@prodigy.net> wrote: > What ever tool you use to find all the Datasets you are looking for, > be aware that there is a field called LADAT - Last Access Date for > GDG's. This can reveal datasets that are older than 1 year. There can > be 1000's of these. Reasons are Jobs become obsolete or are Replaced, > so all their GDG's remain. Secondly, tape datasets could have been > changed to disk with no update to the NOSCRATCH Setting or a GDG > could have been mistakenly set to NOSCRATCH during initial setup. > Finding and deleting these can free lots of disk. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On > Behalf Of Jack Zukt > Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2022 5:18 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Finding uncatalogued datasets > > Thank you all for your input. > Regarding the last comments, my problem is that I have found multiple "SMS" > uncatalogued datasets. A few are rolled out GDG versions, but most are not. > And yes, the environment in a parallel sysplex with two master > catalogs, but those files are all (were) in user catalogs visible on > all lpars with shared alias. I am excluding from this search the > master catalogue aliases, such as SYS1. > Prior to looking for help I was considering a rexx using the catalog > search interface to validate the files, but I would prefer a more > standard approach if I could find one. > Regards > Jack > > On Sat, Jul 23, 2022, 01:00 Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw < > 0000032fff1be9b4-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > > Be careful to pay attention to your configuration. If you are > > running a sysplex with multiple Master Catalogs then you will likely > > find data sets which are catalogued on the other system from the one > > where you are > running. > > > > Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw > > https://apc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Frs > > clweb.com%2F&data=05%7C01%7Callan.staller%40HCL.COM%7C9a99e58bc0 > > a54b02225708da6d4a9185%7C189de737c93a4f5a8b686f4ca9941912%7C0%7C0%7C > > 637942464302060573%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQI > > joiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata= > > CsY%2BoPzHJhlKJk1aPeOoEPhC%2BhiTDwNb5HbARlp81g0%3D&reserved=0 > > 'Dance like no one is watching. Encrypt like everyone is.' > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On > > Behalf Of Gibney, Dave > > Sent: 23 July 2022 00:24 > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > Subject: Re: Finding uncatalogued datasets > > > > SMS shouldn't have uncataloged datasets. In reality, there are ways... > > All of which should be considered an error. > > > > Of course, in my opinion. Most, if not all, uncataloged datasets are > > likely in error. And the reason(s) for looking for them is to > > correct these errors. > > > > So, I wouldn't exclude my SMS volumes from such a search. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On > > > Behalf Of Mike Schwab > > > Sent: Friday, July 22, 2022 4:08 PM > > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > > Subject: Re: Finding uncatalogued datasets > > > > > > > > > > > > SMS storage groups can't have uncataloged data sets, so you can > > > eliminate those volumes. > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 22, 2022 at 9:01 AM Jack Zukt <jzuk...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > As a byproduct of what I am working now, I have found out a few > > > > uncatalogued datasets. Now I would like to find out all the > > > > uncatalogued datasets that are forgotten on the hundred of > > > > volumes > > that are out there. > > > > Using ADRDDSU and (CATLG EQ NO) is not an option as it would need a > > DD > > > > for each VOLSER. I could write a rexx that would read the > > > > DCOLLECT > > > > VOLUMES(*) NODATAINFO and generate a JOB for each VOLSER or > > > > group > > > of > > > > VOLSERs but I really would like to use a more standard approach. > > > > I seem to remember, from another age, that FDRABR could do it. > > > > However > > Dr. > > > Google has > > > > not been able to find me anything to that effect using only IBM > tools. > > > > Do you have any ideas how to go about this? > > > > Your help will be, as always, greatly appreciated. > > > > Regards, > > > > Jack > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > -- > > > > -- > > > > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access > > > > instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the > > > > message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA > > > Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > -- > > > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO > > > IBM-MAIN > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO > > IBM-MAIN > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO > > IBM-MAIN > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ::DISCLAIMER:: ________________________________ The contents of this e-mail and any attachment(s) are confidential and intended for the named recipient(s) only. 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