Wow, talk about "nanny state" link protection - have a gander at the hugely complex mess that René's perfectly reasonable links to the IDCP and Marist copies of Mr. Ehrman's opus turned into below. Someone else's web link safety filter added "https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com"; around René's link and then my employer's filter added " https://urldefense.com/v3"; around that filter.
I know it is important to keep the untrained masses from clicking on dangerous links, but this is getting really ridiculous. Strangely, I can only see René's actual email to the list on the IBM-MAIN archive. I never received it here, and it did not wind up in my employer's email filter cache (off-prem quarantine of just plain junk and actually dangerous emails). I only received Seymour's response to René's message. Peter -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2022 10:59 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Assembler courses I haven't read it, but surely nobody could question the credentials of the author (ז״ל). I miss him. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://mason.gmu.edu/*smetz3__;fg!!Ebr-cpPeAnfNniQ8HSAI-g_K5b7VKg!ImPNbMPUrUVpkPeOd2RbYZN1oF-ZEdWfIW9gt1rwgJYYfJKHkammPPpw_A4YtbGJGiCOG2-BZIOB8Q4AmqG0LA$ ________________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of René Jansen [rene.vincent.jan...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2022 9:21 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Assembler courses I don’t know if someone on the assembler list mentioned this already, but https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https*3A*2F*2Fidcp.marist.edu*2Fdocuments*2F33945*2F44724*2FAssembler.V2.alntext*2BV2.00.pdf*2Fad61965e-8485-65e1-f385-e5cd56f08c63*3Ft*3D1551806232272&data=05*7C01*7Csmetz3*40gmu.edu*7Ca8141b8f50784d579bf208da9978d579*7C9e857255df574c47a0c00546460380cb*7C0*7C0*7C637991043314749524*7CUnknown*7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0*3D*7C3000*7C*7C*7C&sdata=c0XkXdhzNBoLf*2Bu1AjGbrI9WXLtivAFVMotq8J32cc0*3D&reserved=0__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJQ!!Ebr-cpPeAnfNniQ8HSAI-g_K5b7VKg!ImPNbMPUrUVpkPeOd2RbYZN1oF-ZEdWfIW9gt1rwgJYYfJKHkammPPpw_A4YtbGJGiCOG2-BZIOB8Q6vStHKog$ <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https*3A*2F*2Fidcp.marist.edu*2Fdocuments*2F33945*2F44724*2FAssembler.V2.alntext*2BV2.00.pdf*2Fad61965e-8485-65e1-f385-e5cd56f08c63*3Ft*3D1551806232272&data=05*7C01*7Csmetz3*40gmu.edu*7Ca8141b8f50784d579bf208da9978d579*7C9e857255df574c47a0c00546460380cb*7C0*7C0*7C637991043314749524*7CUnknown*7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0*3D*7C3000*7C*7C*7C&sdata=c0XkXdhzNBoLf*2Bu1AjGbrI9WXLtivAFVMotq8J32cc0*3D&reserved=0__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJQ!!Ebr-cpPeAnfNniQ8HSAI-g_K5b7VKg!ImPNbMPUrUVpkPeOd2RbYZN1oF-ZEdWfIW9gt1rwgJYYfJKHkammPPpw_A4YtbGJGiCOG2-BZIOB8Q6vStHKog$ > should be everything you need, and it’s free! Plus other resources on https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https*3A*2F*2Fidcp.marist.edu*2Fassembler-resources&data=05*7C01*7Csmetz3*40gmu.edu*7Ca8141b8f50784d579bf208da9978d579*7C9e857255df574c47a0c00546460380cb*7C0*7C0*7C637991043314749524*7CUnknown*7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0*3D*7C3000*7C*7C*7C&sdata=fIPsXHRJZ4VJO1kJdZzNvg*2FZCiI63Nb1yEpcTW49QQo*3D&reserved=0__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUl!!Ebr-cpPeAnfNniQ8HSAI-g_K5b7VKg!ImPNbMPUrUVpkPeOd2RbYZN1oF-ZEdWfIW9gt1rwgJYYfJKHkammPPpw_A4YtbGJGiCOG2-BZIOB8Q4zauEFww$ <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https*3A*2F*2Fidcp.marist.edu*2Fassembler-resources&data=05*7C01*7Csmetz3*40gmu.edu*7Ca8141b8f50784d579bf208da9978d579*7C9e857255df574c47a0c00546460380cb*7C0*7C0*7C637991043314749524*7CUnknown*7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0*3D*7C3000*7C*7C*7C&sdata=fIPsXHRJZ4VJO1kJdZzNvg*2FZCiI63Nb1yEpcTW49QQo*3D&reserved=0__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUl!!Ebr-cpPeAnfNniQ8HSAI-g_K5b7VKg!ImPNbMPUrUVpkPeOd2RbYZN1oF-ZEdWfIW9gt1rwgJYYfJKHkammPPpw_A4YtbGJGiCOG2-BZIOB8Q4zauEFww$ >. Actually, it is so good that I tried to get the bookie source to modernise it a bit - make it searchable etc. I called John’s old boss and department … but it’s complicated … Best regards,. René. > On 18 Sep 2022, at 15:11, Bob Bridges <robhbrid...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Twenty years ago I wrote a few programs for Excel, and didn't see what > all the fuss was about: "object-oriented" didn't seem very different > from traditional programming that I'd been doing for 25 years. (At > the same time I was frequently infuriated at the message "...does not > support this property or method", exactly because I ~didn't~ > understand what was different about OO coding.) > > Eventually a VBA programmer advised me a bit more, and I'm now an enthusiast, > about OO at least. Not so much about the Visual flavors of Basic itself, but > it was my introduction to OO and it is at least available on all Windows > machines and in all MS Office apps, which is handy. > > What confuses me (so far) is the concept of addressability in HLASM. Every > time I make a stab at writing my first assembler program I get a little > closer, but I'm still not there yet. In other assemblers I got quite > familiar with indirect and offset addressing - it isn't that - but what > exactly happens with the USING instruction still eludes me. > > --- > Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 > > /* Revenge can be bitter-sweet. 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