Thanks for the input. I raised the question because the outsourcer who would do this work said adding more staff would not help because it would take up to 6 months to know the environment. This seemed excessive to me. I would think the string is about 1 day to maybe 2 months long. Even the longest piece is acceptable to us and it's likely to be shorter.
I am an ex sysprog myself albeit in IMS and DB2 and know SMPE and used to code exits in Assembler. It's been a few years but I am sure if given the chance I could be productive in a month. After all, once you have installed and configured one major sub-system, it is not that hard to work on a different one. And given the work that is required is on the z/OS side, some HMC work (creating LPARs etc.) all an experienced z/OS person needs is a TSO logon, documentation on the environment and a buddy to ask questions about the environment and away they go. No subsystems need to be installed - they all exist now. And the Sysplex partner does not need to be built from scratch. Just clone the SYSRES volume for the primary LPAR,, alter SYS1.PARMLIB etc. and go from there (missing a few things here but as they used to say in the maths exercises answers section, the rest is left as an exercise for the reader :-) ) On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 9:19 PM Gibney, Dave < 000003b5261cfd78-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > With all due respect, and I do have great respect for you Brian, you do > have a great deal of experience in this kind of work. So, a day or so after > you get access (and I assume you've acquired a number of tools) it is > entirely possible that you would be up to speed. > I do agree with you that the first hurdle would how rapidly the new guy > gets and what level of access they are allowed. > > I think there are several other variables as to how rapidly a given newly > hired yet experienced sysprog learns the ropes at a new site. From what I > have observed here on the list, sites vary quite a bit. > > Personally, I would need a little longer. But, I've only worked at the one > site, even if it was for 40 years. The thing is, I've forgotten more than I > know at any given time. Almost always had to move to the next issue before > any true expertise settled in. It was usually easier the next time a task > or need rolled around, but since it was my site, I knew where I’d last left > the tools and bread crumbs > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On > > Behalf Of Brian Westerman > > Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2023 9:52 PM > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > Subject: Re: How long for an experiened z/OS sysprog to come up to speed > > on a new environment? > > > > [EXTERNAL EMAIL] > > > > I completely agree with one day. You should be productive by then, as > for > > learning all of the sites naming conventions, procedures and standards, > you > > would pick them up as you go. I have found that by the end of the first > > week, I typically know more about how things are "supposed" to be > > managed than the people that are currently employed there. :) > > > > That assumes that everyone knows you are coming in and is prepared for > > you to be there. Things like getting an ID and a place to sit and > instructions > > for VPN's and connections. Those things typically should be done before > > your first day at the site, but unfortunately it rarely happens that > way. So I > > should say that it's about a day after you can actually log onto the > system. > > > > Brian > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
