At least a month depending on what is falling in your court. And assuming that zOSMF is functional. Are products current. I just depends
Sent from my iPhone No one said I could type with one thumb > On Feb 17, 2023, at 17:35, Mark Zelden <m...@mzelden.com> wrote: > > Wow! I think I'm pretty good and I would never say "1 day". Even back > when I was consulting > full time at different small-ish clients it normally took a few days to get > into the groove and figure out > the local environment. And that's with bringing all my own tools to help > figure things out > because they are rarely documented well as someone wrote. Even if things are > documented, > each site has naming conventions, processes and procedures that are unique. > Figuring out and > learning all the red tape takes longer than one day! Back at that time I did > a lot of jumping > around to different clients there were usually local sysprogs around and they > didn't want to > help a consultant anyway. So someone helping / volunteering information > would make it a > bit easier. I still run into that today with people that think it is job > security to share information > or purposely don't document something. I always felt it was my duty and it > also let me > move onto other things if someone could do what I was doing easy enough with > proper > documentation. > > Today, I work in an environment with 8 sysplexes, 30 LPARs, different > standards for things > in different sysplexes. I've often wondered how long it would take a good > experienced > sysprog to be productive in it. Not a "superstar". What I deal with is > "experienced" > off shore resources that typically have 6-8 years of z/OS system programming > and > even with a ton of documentation about everything they still aren't > productive at all > for 6 months and it takes another 6 months before they're doing real work. > I'm not > talking about being able to do parmlib APF and LNKLST updates. I'm referring > to > being able to install, configure and roll out software upgrades (not just > installing > PTFs) across a large complex environment without breaking something. And > hardware? Forget it... they don't have a clue. > > And my comments above refer to "OS" system programming. Other areas like > CICS, DB2, MQ, Network have similar challenges but the local learning curve is > probably half or less than half. > > Regards, > > Mark > -- > Mark Zelden - Zelden Consulting Services - z/OS, OS/390 and MVS > ITIL v3 Foundation Certified > mailto:m...@mzelden.com > Mark's MVS Utilities: http://www.mzelden.com/mvsutil.html > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
