At least a month depending on what is falling in your court. And assuming that 
zOSMF is functional. Are products current. I just depends 

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> On Feb 17, 2023, at 17:35, Mark Zelden <m...@mzelden.com> wrote:
> 
> Wow!  I think I'm pretty good and I would never say "1 day".   Even back 
> when I was consulting
> full time at different small-ish clients it normally took a few days to get 
> into the groove and figure out
> the local environment.  And that's with bringing all my own tools to help 
> figure things out
> because they are rarely documented well as someone wrote. Even if things are 
> documented,
> each site has naming conventions, processes and procedures that are unique. 
> Figuring out and
> learning all the red tape takes longer than one day!  Back at that time I did 
> a lot of jumping
> around to different clients there were usually local sysprogs around and they 
> didn't want to
> help a consultant anyway.  So someone helping / volunteering information 
> would make it a 
> bit easier.  I still run into that today with people that think it is job 
> security to share information
> or purposely don't document something.  I always felt it was my duty and it 
> also let me
> move onto other things if someone could do what I was doing easy enough with 
> proper
> documentation.   
> 
> Today, I work in an environment with 8 sysplexes, 30 LPARs, different 
> standards for things
> in different sysplexes.  I've often wondered how long it would take a good 
> experienced
> sysprog to be productive in it.  Not a "superstar".   What I deal with is 
> "experienced"
> off shore resources that typically have 6-8 years of z/OS system programming 
> and 
> even with a ton of documentation about everything they still aren't 
> productive at all 
> for 6 months and it takes another 6 months before they're doing real work.  
> I'm not
> talking about being able to do parmlib APF and LNKLST updates.  I'm referring 
> to
> being able to install, configure and roll out software upgrades (not just 
> installing
> PTFs) across a large complex environment without breaking something. And 
> hardware?  Forget it... they don't have a clue.    
> 
> And my comments above refer to "OS" system programming.  Other areas like
> CICS, DB2, MQ, Network have similar challenges but the local learning curve is
> probably half or less than half.  
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Mark
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> ITIL v3 Foundation Certified
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