Al Gore would have been infinitely better than Bush II. The Supreme Court 
conservative majority picked their boy. 2 wars and 9/11 later, the money spent 
fighting useless wars is still being paid. The economic prosperity of the post 
WWII decades would be hard to beat. The middle class in America boomed under 
mostly democratic presidents. Taxes on wealth were high but didn’t slow the 
incredible growth in the US. Speculation on Wallace is nothing but pure 
speculation. 


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On Tuesday, May 2, 2023, 9:33 PM, Mike Schwab <mike.a.sch...@gmail.com> wrote:

A lot of the programs that got the U.S. of of the great depression was
authored by Henry Wallace, Secretary of Agriculture, U.S. V.P 1941-44.
He recorded his Century of the Common Man speech
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAKrIdSPkHI .
Corporate delegate blocked his nomination for VP in 1944, I think the
world would have been much better if he had been in instead of Truman

On Tue, May 2, 2023 at 7:50 PM Bill Johnson
<00000047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
>
> LOL, the US has boatloads of socialism. The military, infrastructure, 
> schools, insurance of all kinds, social security, Medicare/Medicaid, and much 
> more. Capitalism is what the right screams to kowtow to the lesser educated. 
> There are zero capitalist countries on the planet. Much of your success is 
> from socialism. Reminds me of this.
>
>
> An oldie but goodie
>
> Joe gets up at 6 a.m. and fills his coffeepot with water to prepare his 
> morning coffee. The water is clean and good because some tree-hugging liberal 
> fought for minimum water-quality standards. With his first swallow of coffee, 
> he takes his daily medication. His medications are safe to take because some 
> stupid commie liberal fought to ensure their safety and that they work as 
> advertised.
>
> All but $10 of his medications are paid for by his employer's medical plan 
> because *some liberal* union workers fought their employers for paid medical 
> insurance - now Joe gets it too. He prepares his morning breakfast, bacon and 
> eggs. Joe's bacon is safe to eat because some girly-man liberal fought for 
> laws to regulate the meat packing industry.
>
> In the morning shower, Joe reaches for his shampoo. His bottle is properly 
> labeled with each ingredient and its amount in the total contents because 
> some crybaby liberal fought for his right to know what he was putting on his 
> body and how much it contained.
>
> Joe dresses, walks outside and takes a deep breath. The air he breathes is 
> clean because some environmentalist wacko liberal fought for laws to stop 
> industries from polluting our air. He walks to the subway station for his 
> government-subsidized ride to work. It saves him considerable money in 
> parking and transportation fees because some fancy-pants liberal fought for 
> affordable public transportation, which gives everyone the opportunity to be 
> a contributor.
>
> Joe begins his work day. He has a good job with excellent pay, medical 
> benefits, retirement, paid holidays and vacation because some lazy liberal 
> union members fought and died for these working standards. Joe's employer 
> pays these standards because Joe's employer doesn't want his employees to 
> call the union. If Joe is hurt on the job or becomes unemployed, he'll get a 
> worker compensation or unemployment check because some stupid liberal didn't 
> think he should lose his home or go hungry because of his temporary 
> misfortune.
>
> It's noontime and Joe needs to make a bank deposit so he can pay some bills. 
> Joe's deposit is federally insured by the FSLIC because some godless liberal 
> wanted to protect Joe's money from unscrupulous bankers who ruined the 
> banking system before the Great Depression.
>
> Joe has to pay his Fannie Mae-underwritten mortgage and his below-market 
> federal student loan because some elitist liberal decided that Joe and the 
> government would be better off if he was educated and earned more money over 
> his lifetime.
>
> Joe is home from work. He plans to visit his father this evening at his farm 
> home in the country. He gets in his car for the drive. His car is among the 
> safest in the world because some America-hating liberal fought for car safety 
> standards. He arrives at his boyhood home. His was the third generation to 
> live in the house financed by Farmers' Home Administration because bankers 
> didn't want to make rural loans. The house didn't have electricity until some 
> big-government liberal stuck his nose where it didn't belong and demanded 
> rural electrification.
>
> He is happy to see his father, who is now retired. His father lives on Social 
> Security and a union pension because some wine-drinking, cheese-eating 
> liberal made sure he could take care of himself so Joe wouldn't have to.
>
> Joe gets back in his car for the ride home, and turns on a radio talk show. 
> The radio host keeps saying that liberals are bad and conservatives are good. 
> He doesn't mention that the beloved Republicans have fought against every 
> protection and benefit Joe enjoys throughout his day.
>
> Joe agrees: "We don't need those big-government liberals ruining our lives! 
> After all, I'm a self-made man who believes everyone should take care of 
> themselves, just like I have."
>
>
>
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>
>
> On Tuesday, May 2, 2023, 8:33 PM, Steve Thompson <ste...@wkyr.net> wrote:
>
> It is the government's job if it is based on socialism. The USofA
> was based on the rights of the individual and giving them
> opportunity, actually not getting in the way of opportunity. This
> is why it was said, he is governed best who is governed least.
>
> WE the People have rights given by God, not the government. We
> the People are supposed to run this. But if we give up rights for
> safety, then we deserve neither.
>
> Somewhere Civics stopped being taught and the communist party got
> in control (1963 the Communist Manifesto was read into the
> Congressional Record -- You should look it up and read it).
>
> So, my thinking is, if AI is used by the wealthy to increase
> their wealth it will be done on the backs of those least able to
> prevent it. And why I have said that the Laws of Robotics needs
> be implemented at the hardware level while we still can.
>
> Steve Thompson
>
> On 5/2/2023 7:05 PM, Bill Johnson wrote:
> > I agree completely. It’s government’s job to protect the downtrodden & 
> > redistribute income. Even people like Warren Buffett have pushed for higher 
> > taxes on the wealthy. So what actually happened? The tax cuts of 2017 went 
> > mostly to the top 1%. Sheldon Adelson saved 700 million. Not a bad return 
> > for the 30 million he gave Republicans for the 2018 midterms or the 
> > donations he made in 2016.
> >
> > AI is going to cause many currently in the middle class and below to drop 
> > further down. I think UBI, universal basic income will be necessary. 
> > Finland has experimented with it and has seen promising results. Some US 
> > cities have tried or are trying it. Other countries are implementing it. 
> > Most countries not spelled America have universal healthcare. And WHO rates 
> > them higher than the US. (WHO rates US healthcare 37th, France is number 1)
> >
> > You’re also correct that income disparity causes other societal issues. 
> > Higher crime & earlier deaths to name two.
> >
> > Your kids deserve a fighting chance and if necessary government help.
> >
> >
> > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
> >
> >
> > On Tuesday, May 2, 2023, 12:30 PM, Matt Hogstrom <m...@hogstrom.org> wrote:
> >
> > Perhaps I’m just entering that golden period where I look at news like this 
> > and consider that technology like AI being unleashed has secondary, and 
> > negative, consequences of people losing jobs, income, etc.  It makes the 
> > divide worse and causes angst, bitterness and redistribution of wealth as a 
> > necessity.  One of my adopted foster kids will have difficulty crossing the 
> > chasm to make a living given some of his disabilities.  It’s not just 
> > technology but there is an increasing societal consideration to be factored 
> > in.
> >
> > Matt Hogstrom
> >
> > “It may be cognitive, but, it ain’t intuitive."
> > — Hogstrom
> >
> >
> >
> >> On May 2, 2023, at 12:11 PM, Lionel B. Dyck <lbd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> So sad.  No more entry level, or trivial, jobs for those just starting out 
> >> in the job market. No more mail room to board room opportunities.
> >>
> >>
> >> Lionel B. Dyck <><
> >> Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com
> >> Github: https://github.com/lbdyck
> >>
> >> “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what 
> >> you are, reputation merely what others think you are.”  - - - John Wooden
> >
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