If you want Europe, you know where to find it.

On Tue, Aug 8, 2023 at 9:38 AM Bill Johnson <
00000047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

> You’re right, Europe is different. They actually care about people over
> profits. Much better infrastructure, better health care, and better quality
> of lives.
>
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> On Tuesday, August 8, 2023, 10:34 AM, Jay Maynard <jaymayn...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> In case you haven't noticed, the US is much, much different from Europe, in
> many ways big and little that bear on this discussion.
>
> But, in typical Bill Johnson fashion, he's convinced he's right and will
> defend his opinions, well-informed or not, to the death.
>
> On Tue, Aug 8, 2023 at 9:29 AM Bill Johnson <
> 00000047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
>
> > Lol, you should have followed your own advice. My dad drove truck his
> > whole life. Never once did wind cause an issue. Yeah, it happens, but not
> > frequently. And American roads are way more dangerous than European
> roads.
> > The data (facts) are clear. So profit over lives is a Republican choice.
> >
> >
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> > On Tuesday, August 8, 2023, 10:20 AM, Steve Thompson <ste...@wkyr.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> > I've driven in Germany, Austria and Switzerland and some island
> > countries. And I held, for over 15 years a CDL-A with Multi and
> > Tanker endorsements.
> >
> > I did not drive LKW (semis) anywhere but within the USofA. And a
> > box truck once into Canada.
> >
> > Stick to what you know, not what what the Huffy post or others say.
> >
> > Governors are used by different companies. Some limit their
> > trucks to 64MPH. Owner operators can get their trucks with no
> > governors at all.
> >
> > I have a son-in-law that is finishing his training to be a Diesel
> > mechanic able to work on all the current Tractors in the USofA.
> > The electronics are unbelievable, and can cause that truck to be
> > down for weeks waiting on some solid state relay board (or
> > whatever). The world of trucking has changed significantly since
> > I started driving back about 2004.
> >
> > Because I'm also a pilot, I know a bit about wind and its
> > effects. Stick to what you know, what you have experienced.
> >
> > I've seen fully loaded trucks get blown over (55,000+ gross).
> > I've seen trucks lose control in snow and swap ends. Managed to
> > not jack knife.
> >
> > Thankfully I never had any problems, no accidents, no incidents.
> > I was lucky and I was a novice and just applied my knowledge of
> > physics and energy management that I learned in flying to driving
> > a 70,000 gross weight truck. I loaded the trucks so the weight
> > was more at the bottom than top (I had specialty loads of barn
> > beams).
> >
> > Stick to what you know.
> >
> > Take this crap out of here and go argue it elsewhere.
> >
> > Steve Thompson
> >
> >
> >
> > On 8/8/2023 9:07 AM, Bill Johnson wrote:
> > > I’ve driven roads in Europe. Every truck is in the right most lane,
> > unless they are passing which isn’t common. It’s nothing like the US
> > trucking which is designed for large trucks and fast speeds. That’s
> exactly
> > why the carnage on US highways from trucks is way higher. And wind as an
> > excuse is just silly. Or speed differential.
> > > In Germany and other European Union counties, trucks with a gross
> > vehicle weight rating of 3.5 tonnes (7,700 pounds) or more must have a
> > governor that limits their speed to 90 kph (54 miles per hour).
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> > > On Tuesday, August 8, 2023, 3:52 AM, Jeremy Nicoll <
> > jn.ls.mfrm...@letterboxes.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Tue, 8 Aug 2023, at 01:56, Bill Johnson wrote:
> > >> In Europe all the trucks go the same speed.
> > > Rubbish.  Age of truck and how heavy its load is are certainly factors.
> > >
> > > An unloaded truck, is a lot more susceptible to high winds so might
> > > be driven slower in those conditions; trucks with no load with curtain-
> > > sides often have their curtains open in high winds to significantly
> > > reduce wind effects.  But that's impossible if there's a partial load
> > > or nowhere safe for the driver to open (and tie back) the curtains.
> > >
> > >> The trucks all have governors.
> > > No they don't.  Some do.  Even so it sets a maximum speed not
> > > the actual speed.
> > >
> > >> They are also all in the right lane.
> > > By "right" do you mean "correct"?  Or do you mean the slowest
> > > lane?  In any case trucks are permitted to be in the next fastest
> > > lane while overtaking a slower truck.
> > >
> > >
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