Hi Bill,
Here is a quote from Blazing Saddles: "Lozim Geiyen".
If you're so enthralled with Europe why not just leave already and stop torturing yourself in this deplorable continent?

Regards,
David

On 2023-08-08 10:38, Bill Johnson wrote:
You’re right, Europe is different. They actually care about people over 
profits. Much better infrastructure, better health care, and better quality of 
lives.


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On Tuesday, August 8, 2023, 10:34 AM, Jay Maynard <jaymayn...@gmail.com> wrote:

In case you haven't noticed, the US is much, much different from Europe, in
many ways big and little that bear on this discussion.

But, in typical Bill Johnson fashion, he's convinced he's right and will
defend his opinions, well-informed or not, to the death.

On Tue, Aug 8, 2023 at 9:29 AM Bill Johnson <
00000047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

Lol, you should have followed your own advice. My dad drove truck his
whole life. Never once did wind cause an issue. Yeah, it happens, but not
frequently. And American roads are way more dangerous than European roads.
The data (facts) are clear. So profit over lives is a Republican choice.


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On Tuesday, August 8, 2023, 10:20 AM, Steve Thompson <ste...@wkyr.net>
wrote:

I've driven in Germany, Austria and Switzerland and some island
countries. And I held, for over 15 years a CDL-A with Multi and
Tanker endorsements.

I did not drive LKW (semis) anywhere but within the USofA. And a
box truck once into Canada.

Stick to what you know, not what what the Huffy post or others say.

Governors are used by different companies. Some limit their
trucks to 64MPH. Owner operators can get their trucks with no
governors at all.

I have a son-in-law that is finishing his training to be a Diesel
mechanic able to work on all the current Tractors in the USofA.
The electronics are unbelievable, and can cause that truck to be
down for weeks waiting on some solid state relay board (or
whatever). The world of trucking has changed significantly since
I started driving back about 2004.

Because I'm also a pilot, I know a bit about wind and its
effects. Stick to what you know, what you have experienced.

I've seen fully loaded trucks get blown over (55,000+ gross).
I've seen trucks lose control in snow and swap ends. Managed to
not jack knife.

Thankfully I never had any problems, no accidents, no incidents.
I was lucky and I was a novice and just applied my knowledge of
physics and energy management that I learned in flying to driving
a 70,000 gross weight truck. I loaded the trucks so the weight
was more at the bottom than top (I had specialty loads of barn
beams).

Stick to what you know.

Take this crap out of here and go argue it elsewhere.

Steve Thompson



On 8/8/2023 9:07 AM, Bill Johnson wrote:
I’ve driven roads in Europe. Every truck is in the right most lane,
unless they are passing which isn’t common. It’s nothing like the US
trucking which is designed for large trucks and fast speeds. That’s exactly
why the carnage on US highways from trucks is way higher. And wind as an
excuse is just silly. Or speed differential.
In Germany and other European Union counties, trucks with a gross
vehicle weight rating of 3.5 tonnes (7,700 pounds) or more must have a
governor that limits their speed to 90 kph (54 miles per hour).

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On Tuesday, August 8, 2023, 3:52 AM, Jeremy Nicoll <
jn.ls.mfrm...@letterboxes.org> wrote:
On Tue, 8 Aug 2023, at 01:56, Bill Johnson wrote:
In Europe all the trucks go the same speed.
Rubbish.  Age of truck and how heavy its load is are certainly factors.

An unloaded truck, is a lot more susceptible to high winds so might
be driven slower in those conditions; trucks with no load with curtain-
sides often have their curtains open in high winds to significantly
reduce wind effects.  But that's impossible if there's a partial load
or nowhere safe for the driver to open (and tie back) the curtains.

The trucks all have governors.
No they don't.  Some do.  Even so it sets a maximum speed not
the actual speed.

They are also all in the right lane.
By "right" do you mean "correct"?  Or do you mean the slowest
lane?  In any case trucks are permitted to be in the next fastest
lane while overtaking a slower truck.


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