Kurt, I think the power of SMP/E is not the initial install, but the fix management (ptf chain management). Actually many deliveries from IBM have SMP/E already populated and technically this is a kind of DSS dump (or can be).
ITschak ITschak Mugzach *|** IronSphere Platform* *|* *Information Security Continuous Monitoring for z/OS, x/Linux & IBM I **| z/VM coming soon * On Thu, Aug 24, 2023 at 6:48 PM Kurt Quackenbush <ku...@us.ibm.com> wrote: > Yes, thanks for asking, we have thought about an alternative. And an > alternative exists in z/OSMF Software Management and Portable Software > Instances. In this form you can package, deliver, and install software > whether it is SMP/E managed or not. If it is SMP/E managed, as much of the > software on the z/OS platform is, then the package includes the SMP/E > artifacts like CSIs so you can install PTF fixes. You can of course choose > to ignore the SMP/E artifacts and just repeat the process to install an > updated Portable Software Instance in 3 months as you suggest. > > Kurt Quackenbush > IBM | z/OS SMP/E and z/OSMF Software Management | ku...@us.ibm.com > > Chuck Norris never uses CHECK when he applies PTFs. > > -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf > Of Colin Paice > Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2023 10:37 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Is SMP/E needed for installs? > > This week, I did my first SMP/E install since my previous one over 40 years > ago! The process hasn't changed much. It took me about half a day to > download the files and configure the jobs - making the same changes in > several jobs. > For people new to z/OS "installation" is hard to get into, understand, and > get working properly. > > Has anyone thought about alternative ways of shipping products? For > example many products are now Web downloads, which you just restore. > I would like to see a DFDSS dump of the CST level of all objects and a > matching dump of the SMP/E datasets of the product. > I can just restore the product stuff,and not the SMP/E stuff, or I can > install the SMP/E stuff as well. If you want to install a fix, then apply > it to the SMP/E libraries. > In 3 months time, repeat the whole process. > > I think we have to do something before all those with the knowledge and > experience retire! > > Colin > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email > to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
