Let me get this right: Companies will pay their lawyers $750 an hour and up, but the people that write the code to keep their businesses running, that do the support work to keep those businesses running, us they want to pay $45 an hour for, and give us a list of skills they want a mile long. I said this facetiously originally, but what I just said is unfortunately the truth. You all took it seriously, so there it is. Seriously.
Lately, the numbers are back to pre-Covid.
Thankfully, I don't have much time left in this business.
By that time, ChatGPT will be fixing it all. I'll be on the golf course. So far, ChatGPT can't swing a golf club.

Doug Fuerst


------ Original Message ------
From "Bob Bridges" <robhbrid...@gmail.com>
To IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Date 12/2/2023 16:51:46 PM
Subject Re: Assembler programmer wanted

Again, I'm speaking only for myself, but I definitely think we DON'T "need" 
better terms.  I have a great job that pays me more money than I spend for doing what I 
wanted to do anyway.

(Not that I'd insist on giving back some of it if folks insist on offering more.  But I 
don't want to ride the edge of client resentment.  If they're gritting their teeth and 
thinking "Boy, he'd better be worth it!" the day I come aboard, I'm already 
behind.  Better they should feel superior at having gotten me for less than they were 
willing to pay.)

---
Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313

/* As a general rule, people marry most happily with their own kind. The 
trouble lies in the fact that people usually marry at an age where they do not 
really know what their own kind is.  -Robertson Davies */

-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf Of 
Doug Fuerst
Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2023 16:37

We need a better union. Maybe Fran Drescher is available. Actors have better 
terms. Former Nanny's apparently can get them.

We need better terms.

------ Original Message ------
From "Mike Schwab" <mike.a.sch...@gmail.com>
Date 12/2/2023 16:11:33 PM

If you wrote it while employed or under hourly contract its a work for
hire and company owns.  If paid for a finish product or during off duty
time you have the copyright and resellable, but strongly suggested to
incle the copyright assignment in the sales contract.

--- On Sat, Dec 2, 2023 at 2:37 PM Doug Fuerst <d...@bkassociates.net> wrote:
  Maybe we should ask for residuals for our creative property like actors.
  We give it all away too easily.

  What would happen if we all went on strike?

  Interesting thought....

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