I guess you might say that the whole point of products such as these is 
converting dense "strings & numbers" into logs. A mainframe security "event" is 
surely as significant to the enterprise as a Linux server security event -- it 
makes sense to many enterprises to get it into their enterprise security 
analysis solution (Splunk, Sumo Logic, or a "SIEM"). You may say "no, we want 
to manage mainframe security 100% on the mainframe" and that may be valid, but 
not every enterprise feels that way. I feel that there is a benefit to 
correlating the two worlds, and correlation is what SIEMs and Splunk are good 
at. In other words, it may be relevant that the mainframe is seeing hundreds of 
invalid password attempts at the same time that a Linux server is seeing DoS 
attacks.

When you think of SMF you may primarily think in terms of job accounting and 
resource management, but the first record type that customers usually want to 
export to Splunk or a SIEM is RACF's type 80.

Yes, SMF is very "dense" and Syslog -- the industry standard logging "thing" -- 
too loosely defined to be called a standard, and not to be confused with what 
we mainframers call SYSLOG -- is basically human-readable ASCII text and not 
very dense at all. The most common format is some variant of tag = value, so 
one binary byte at offset 20 into an SMF 80 record might become EventCode = 1 
or perhaps Event = RACINIT.

It's a big job. I just looked. At the point I turned the product over to BMC it 
consisted of about 100,000 lines of C++, 26,000 lines of assembler, and 60,000 
lines of a proprietary schema that mapped, for example, a binary byte at offset 
20 in an SMF 80 record, to EventCode = nn.

Charles

On Wed, 6 Mar 2024 02:15:14 +0000, kekronbekron <kekronbek...@protonmail.com> 
wrote:

>I don't understand this at all... we all know that SMF is not a log, it's a 
>whole bunch of strings & mostly numbers... metrics.
>Why has it become acceptable to send metrics to a log search tool, knowing 
>full well that these are different categories with different solutions.
>Splunk etc. are meant to collect and search through things like http web 
>server log, not metrics.
>The information density in a log is low. In SMF, it's very high (there are no 
>fluff words, just metrics which may or may not be of use during a given 
>activity).

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