No place is all bad.  The same company started me, upon hiring, on several days 
of Deltak courses, one on JCL and one on COBOL.  It is to them that I owe a 
lifelong familiarity with JCL.  I wonder sometimes how mainframers get on 
without it.

(Well, "lifelong":  It was 1980, so I was probably 26.)

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/* A strong conviction that something must be done is the parent of many bad 
measures.  -Daniel Webster */

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf Of 
Seymour J Metz
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2024 15:38

That sounds like a hostile working environment. The people doing a code review 
should know the language and the local standards; nit sounds like they knew 
neither.

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> on behalf of Bob 
Bridges <00000587168ababf-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu>
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2024 12:37 PM

....I once worked at a company that instituted code reviews; a new program 
would be gone over by a half-dozen coworkers to be sure it adhered to local 
standards.  This sort of thing is always painful to the coder, and nevertheless 
(I admit reluctantly) can have considerable value if done right.  One problem I 
had with it, though, is that the standards we created for ourselves admitted 
that there are times when exceptions should be made for special cases, and yet 
when those cases arose no exceptions were ever allowed; the team invariably 
flinched, leaned back in their seats and said "no, that's not according to our 
standards".

One particular example always rankled:  Whenever someone felt the need to use a 
STRING or UNSTRING command (I should have said we were COBOL developers), the 
team always struck it down on the grounds that STRING and UNSTRING are unusual 
commands and some COBOL coders would be unfamiliar with it.  My contention here 
is that that's absolutely true, and it's the job of the COBOL coder to ~learn~ 
the STRING and UNSTRING statements, as tools of his profession.  I never 
persuaded anyone to that view, though.

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