My only problem with z/OSMF is that I am forced to use it without IBM caring 
what my preference or opinion is.
I understand their desire for a GUI "OPTION", but cannot understand why they 
want to force a single way of installing
an OS when I've (and most of us) have used the previous SERVERPAC install for 
many years. What's wrong with keeping an OPTION?
It works (or worked) great. When I started my IT career, I had the choice to go 
into the GUI world or the mainframe world.
I initially chose the mainframe path because I liked the look and feel of it 
better than the GUI path.
I personally don't want my mainframe to become a giant PC.
That's my rant.

Randy Harris
P 615-344-3244
C 662-401-8552
james.harr...@hcahealthcare.com

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> On Jul 11, 2024, at 06:44, Doug Fuerst <d...@bkassociates.net> wrote:
>
> Back when I was an FE, we used to discuss the fact that some components were 
> so difficult to replace that the designers probably never had to actually 
> replace them. We always thought that the designers should have to replace 
> every part we had to replace in the field before the design was signed off 
> on. Never happened though...
>
> Doug Fuerst
>
> ------ Original Message ------
> From "Brian Westerman" <brian_wester...@syzygyinc.com> To 
> IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date 7/11/2024 0:32:21 AM Subject Re: another 
> z/OSMF rant. -- Catch-22 is killing me
>
>> It just occurred to me that maybe the people who build z/OSMF never really 
>> had to use it to build a production system.  Building something that IPLs is 
>> simple. building a production replacement takes some doing and having 
>> someone that might not really "get" the entire process can really make the 
>> process quite hard.
>>
>> Just a thought.
>>
>> Brian
>>
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