First of all, IMHO it is off-topic.
It is off-topic despite we see "system programmers" keywords here.
It is off-topic, because it not mainframe-specific issue, rather it's an
issue of IT or even wider - about world economy and remote work
possibilities.
Of course you can be angry for the rates, but it is neither issue of
Indian people nor Indian companies. Even American or Canadian companies
do hire people outside. Not to mention European giants like Atos, Sopra,
etc. And all those companies do hire US citizens as well as EU citizens.
And people living in India, Indonesia, Peru, Costa Rica, Brasil,
Australia, New Zealand, Philippines, etc. However it is not only about
employees - Kyndryl or Ensono or other companies have big customers
outside of US - is it OK? For me it is.
And yes, US folks are usually paid better than people in Lithuania
(Rocket Software), people in Poland are paid better than in Brasil or
Pakistan. But the difference does NOT come from someone's appeals or
invocations.
If you want to change the rules - it's your decision. However I don't
think the IBM-MAIN or RACF-L are proper places for that activity.
--
Radoslaw Skorupka
Lodz, Poland
W dniu 23.07.2025 o 12:57, Steve Beaver pisze:
First of all I would like to extent my gratitude to the US Based zOS Systems
Programmers
It strongly appears as a group we are standing up to the low-ball rates that
the Indian recruiters
At offering.
I was approached about 10 times yesterday for a job for San Bernardino County
by email and LinkedIn
and they we offering $60/Hr W2 that was no surprise. I emailed back $135/Hr W2
and was called several
Times and I again told them $135/Hr W2.
Talking to the Indian recruiter, evidently as a group we all stood up and
emailed back $135/Hr W2
Or directly told them $135/Hr W2.
Just as long as we all hold a solid front and keep saying $135/Hr W2 or more
the companies
And the recruiters will have no choice but start paying what we are worth
Keep up the good work and the solid front
Steve
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