In my opinion, US based residency is not a new requirement.  As a US citizen, 
with a legal domicile in the 
State of Tennessee, I have been looking for employment opportunities that would 
allow me to work from 
Montenegro for approximately six months out of the year.  Since 2022, I have 
been told, I had to
have my feet on the ground in the USA while working for the company.



"Confidentially doc, I am the wabbit."

Bugs Bunny

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On Thursday, July 24th, 2025 at 9:22 AM, Seymour J Metz <[email protected]> wrote:

> I found that out when I put some people in contact with Radus; the IRS 
> requires that remote workers be physically in the US.
> 
> --
> Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
> http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
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> 
> 
> 
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> ________________________________________
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [email protected] on behalf of 
> David Spiegel [email protected]
> 
> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2025 8:21 AM
> To: [email protected] [email protected]
> 
> Subject: Re: US Based zOS Systems Programmers
> 
> 
> External Message: Use Caution
> 
> 
> Hi Steve,
> I am a US citizen, but, don't live in the USA.
> At some companies, I am ineligible for remote work for this reason
> 
> (Some intelligent companies don't care where one resides.)
> 
> Regards,
> David
> 
> On 2025-07-24 07:40, Steve Beaver wrote:
> 
> > TCS has sold a service contract to Toyota in Plano. The downside is that 
> > TCS does not rehire and that is their choice. The problem becomes is that I 
> > have no Idea how many people on this list are former TCS employees as I am.
> > 
> > But I have been approacted and/or contacted over 500 times for the Toyota 
> > deal in Plano. That many contacts has far beyond exceeded the level of
> > Mass insanity and stupidity. Also TCS has sold a service contact to Boeing 
> > and Zions Bank, and yet the recuiters keep contacting the same known 
> > resources in hopes of finding someone.
> > 
> > There are other recuiters looking for companies other then TCS, DXC, and 
> > CTS. Those are the ones I want US Based zOS Systems Programmers to target.
> > 
> > In the past few days I have been hit with e-mails for San Berinadino County 
> > in California and I simply respond $135/Hr W2. Again the recuiters are 
> > using the same known zOS Systems Programmers. Also I've been approache for 
> > my skills of ACF2, RACF, zSecure, and TSS and it respond with $135/Hr W2. 
> > And San Berinadino County in California I know have been looking for well 
> > over a year.
> > 
> > Beause of US Laws under the Trump Administration and government regulated 
> > industries and companies lile Toyota that have statted US Citizens only, no 
> > one from other counties can be hired and there lies the rub
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On 
> > Behalf Of Phil Smith III
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2025 1:33 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: US Based zOS Systems Programmers
> > 
> > Hmm. I mostly agree, but there would seem to be room for discussion of what 
> > U.S.-based sysprogs are worth vs. ones in other timezones. It's the "other 
> > timezones" that becomes an issue: when every interaction takes 24 hours 
> > because the two sides are 12 hours apart, that's a problem, no matter how 
> > good they are.
> > 
> > And if folks are being offered the same rates as in the 80s, when the 
> > number of quality people has declined precipitously, that feels like a 
> > problem worth discussion too. But of course Radoslav is correct that 
> > neither complaining here nor to a recruiter is likely to lead to any 
> > change. Though I find it offensive to be approached with a lowball 
> > offer--but that's just basic incompetence on the part of the recruiter. 
> > Probably more useful to explain to them why it's lowball.
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [email protected] On Behalf Of 
> > Tom Brennan
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2025 1:29 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: US Based zOS Systems Programmers
> > 
> > +1
> > 
> > On 7/23/2025 10:10 AM, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote:
> > 
> > > First of all, IMHO it is off-topic.
> > > 
> > > It is off-topic despite we see "system programmers" keywords here.
> > > It is off-topic, because it not mainframe-specific issue, rather it's
> > > an issue of IT or even wider - about world economy and remote work
> > > possibilities.
> > > 
> > > Of course you can be angry for the rates, but it is neither issue of
> > > Indian people nor Indian companies. Even American or Canadian
> > > companies do hire people outside. Not to mention European giants like
> > > Atos, Sopra, etc. And all those companies do hire US citizens as well as 
> > > EU citizens.
> > > And people living in India, Indonesia, Peru, Costa Rica, Brasil,
> > > Australia, New Zealand, Philippines, etc. However it is not only about
> > > employees - Kyndryl or Ensono or other companies have big customers
> > > outside of US - is it OK? For me it is.
> > > And yes, US folks are usually paid better than people in Lithuania
> > > (Rocket Software), people in Poland are paid better than in Brasil or
> > > Pakistan. But the difference does NOT come from someone's appeals or
> > > invocations.
> > > 
> > > If you want to change the rules - it's your decision. However I don't
> > > think the IBM-MAIN or RACF-L are proper places for that activity.
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