In 3.4 if you display the dataset and then PF11 - see if there are dataset
attributes.  If there is no space, no lrecl, no blksize, and so forth, then
all you have is a catalog entry and that is it.  You can create as many
catalog entries as you like that do not have REAL datasets underneath them.

Lizette


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Subject: Re: Deleting Alias

Elardus,

I tried viewing via ISMF and I could see the alias entry pointing the same
usercatalog, but when I type Browse agains the alias I get a message as
"Dataset not catalogued"


On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 8:01 PM, Paul Gilmartin <paulgboul...@aim.com>wrote:

> On Wed, 21 Aug 2013 07:17:27 -0700, Lizette Koehler wrote:
> >
> >DEF TED.MY.FILE ALIAS RELATE(BOB.MY.FILE)  then both BOB hlq and TED 
> >hlq must be in MYUCAT1
> >
> You can control which catalog the TED alias is created in, but if the 
> catalogs are different you lose either way.  If you create TED in 
> BOB's catalog, catalog search fails to find TED; if you create TED in 
> its proper catalog, catalog search fails to find BOB.
>
> >I may have that backwards, but it is close.  Bottom line, the example 
> >IBM has in the book for doing this is very bad. I will be opening a 
> >request
> for
> >updating that to a more reasonable example.    ...
> >
> Rather, that should be a Requirement that it be done right, not a RCF 
> for documentation that it is done wrong.
>
> >    ... Second, from the document it
> >appears that the HLQs should be in the same UCAT.  At least that is 
> >my understanding from reading the IBM doc (which is very nebulous at
best).
> >And I do not believe that you are required to use the CAT parameter 
> >in the DEF ... ALIAS RELATE(....) function
>
> -- gil
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