On Tue, 5 Nov 2013 08:13:14 -0600, Paul Gilmartin <paulgboul...@aim.com> wrote:

>It's far less encrusted with the patina of antiquity.  Much of OS/360
>made sense in the resource-constrained batch environment in which
>it originated.  Nowadays, its residue is a requirement for compatibility;
>an enormous burden for novices.
>
>-- gil
>

+1 gil!   exactly!

I've long thought that z/OS needed a good dose of modernization and overhaul to 
come kicking and screaming onto the hardware of the 21st century....  Does 
anyone use FLPA any more?


On Tue, 5 Nov 2013 20:32:38 +0800, David Crayford <dcrayf...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>Indeed! It's and old story isn't it? If youngster's don't have easy
>access to a platform they will not be interested in it. They can install
>Linux on a cheap PC and hack away to their hearts content.
>IBM really do need to wake up and start providing either emulation or
>cheap virtual machines to as many universities as they can reach.
>

This is the exact same  problem facing the IBM i community,  no cheap/free 
option for experimentation and exploration.  IBM should make available a free 
download of IBM z/OS emlated to run on a PC just for this purpose.  On second 
thought, that would highlight all the 'encrusted patina of antiquity' and 
probably send the 20-somethings running for the hills!

Dana 

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