Richard,

Love it, yeah I agree we are an enigma 

Scott ford
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> On Nov 4, 2013, at 12:31 PM, Richard Pinion <rpin...@netscape.com> wrote:
> 
> Yeah, but farmers have their own dating site www.farmersonly.com. Never seen 
> one of those for system programmers.
> 
> 
> 
> --- scott_j_f...@yahoo.com wrote:
> 
> From:         Scott Ford <scott_j_f...@yahoo.com>
> To:           IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers
> Date:         Mon, 4 Nov 2013 09:26:28 -0800
> 
> Skip,
> I totally agree, grew up in Indiana , saw similar situations. I think its a 
> bit generational...if there is such a word. When you have to work hard for 
> what you have, there is a sense of appreciation.
> 
> Scott J Ford
> Software Engineer
> http://www.identityforge.com/
>  
> 
> 
> 
> On Monday, November 4, 2013 11:40 AM, Skip Robinson 
> <jo.skip.robin...@sce.com> wrote:
> 
> I happen to have some personal knowledge about the shortage of farmers. 
> Two of my uncles owned their own farms in southern Idaho. They didn't grow 
> rich, but they supported their families in very comfortable style. They 
> both had kids including one boy each. None of the kids in either family 
> had any interest in farming. Both boys became engineers. The farms were 
> eventually sold with proceeds going--where else?--to the kids. 
> 
> It was not about training. Farmers' kids--especially boys--get saturation 
> training as they grow up. It's about desire. In the words of the esteemed 
> Yogi Berra:
> 
> "If people don't want to come out to the ballpark, how are you going to 
> stop them?"
> 
> .
> .
> JO.Skip Robinson
> Southern California Edison Company
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> 
> 
> From:   Steve Comstock <st...@trainersfriend.com>
> To:    IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU, 
> Date:   11/04/2013 08:03 AM
> Subject:        Re: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers
> Sent by:        IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>
> 
> 
> 
>> On 11/4/2013 8:58 AM, George Rodriguez wrote:
>> That's not 100% true...
>> 
>> "Schools aren't training enough mainfarmers."
>> 
>> There's a program in North Carolina that's teaching TSO, Cobol, JCL,
> etc...
>> and graduates are being hired by businesses that are using mainframe
>> computer systems.
> 
> You missed the pun: 'mainfarmers', not 'mainframers'
>                           ~~~~~~~
> 
> 
> -Steve Comstock
> 
> 
>> 
>> We in south Florida were thinking of offering the same programs...
>> 
>> 
>>    *George Rodriguez*
>> *Specialist II - IT Solutions*
>> *IT Enterprise Applications*
>> *PX - 47652*
>> *(561) 357-7652 (office)*
>> *(561) 707-3496 (mobile)*
>> *School District of Palm Beach County*
>> *3348 Forest Hill Blvd.*
>> *Room B-251*
>> *West Palm Beach, FL. 33406-5869*
>> *Florida's Only A-Rated Urban District For Eight Consecutive Years*
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 10:26 AM, Dave Salt <ds...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Schools aren't training enough mainfarmers.    ;-)
>>> 
>>> Dave Salt
>>> 
>>> SimpList(tm) - try it; you'll get it!
>>> 
>>> http://www.mackinney.com/products/program-development/simplist.html
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2013 02:41:39 -0600
>>>> From: elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za
>>>> Subject: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers
>>>> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>>>> 
>>>> News for you aging Sysprogs... :-)
>>>> 
>>>> It is not the mainframers who is aging while struggling to get new
> young
>>> guys/gals into mainframes.
>>>> 
>>>> The farmers are also struggling here with this aging thing in South
>>> Africa and United States.
>>>> 
>>>> Now read up those links before you retire! ;-)
> http://www.agriculture.com/news/business/is-agriculture-aging-too-quickly_5-ar34746
> 
>>>> 
>>>> http://www.cnbc.com/id/101087391
>>>> 
>>>> etc. Happy reading.
>>>> 
>>>> Groete / Greetings
>>>> Elardus Engelbrecht
> 
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