On Jul 8, 2014, at 7:06 PM, John McKown wrote:

In another shop, and all my previous employers, I did as you said. No
unsupported "freebies". In this shop, saying no is to be placed at the top
of the RIF list for not being a "team player". And "not supportive".

Hopefully, if/when I get a new employer, I can do things the proper way.


John:

I would have started a long time ago.

Ed

On Jul 8, 2014 5:53 PM, "Ed Gould" <edgould1...@comcast.net> wrote:

On Jul 8, 2014, at 4:18 PM, John McKown wrote:

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Well, unfortunately, I am tasked to do things. So it is use what I
have available to me because we _aren't_ going to get supported
products which cost real money. And z/OS is not the only victim. The
Windows people likewise have processes which are dependent on
non-supported software. Because it reduces our budget.


John:,

Maybe the problem is you got into this position by your own permissive
behavior (I don't know)
But you have to be proactive just not "make it work".
I was always proactive and only supported items that I knew I was able to support. I didn't take the the boss dictating "make it work" If he tried it he knew that the project would fail not by me but because others couldn't support what I knew was impossible. There was only one product that was snuck into the system and it died a miserable death because I would upgrade OS's and only inform my boss. Only the snuck in software had a problem and I just said not mine you fix it, my boss stood behind me (as did his boss and boss squared). One time it was requested that I assist the people and the vendor was out of his depth, I ended up solving the problem only after pointing out the issue exactly and the vendor fixing it after screaming it
wasn't their issue.
Ed



Ed


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