I stand corrected.  I was not aware that such systems were available.  One site 
I saw after a brief search will even sell you a 12-core Xeon with Win7 Pro or 
Win 8.1 Pro for less than $4,200.

I also stand corrected that there are only 4-core i7 CPU's.  I see now that 
there are 6-core versions, the i7-3930K for $600 and the i7-3960K Extreme 
Edition for $1,070.

However, those IBM prices do mean RD&T is not really feasible for interested 
tinkerers.  Especially with a 15% annual renewal fee.

OTOH an obvious boon for genuine ISV's (or others with $$$ to spend).

Peter

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Williams, Jeff (MGS)
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 11:51 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Rational Development and Test (RD&T) aka z/OS on a PC

A dual Xeon box with 12 cores and 64GB can be had for less than half the price 
of that Mac. If you have the $$$ for the licence, the hardware cost is a 
non-issue. 

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Paul Gilmartin
Sent: August-06-14 11:36 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Rational Development and Test (RD&T) aka z/OS on a PC

On 2014-08-06, at 08:53, Farley, Peter x23353 wrote:
> 
> For Sysplex installations, IBM recommends an 11-Core system with 3 cores 
> devoted to linux and 8 cores devoted to z/VM and its guests.
> 
> AFAIK ordinary people don't have access to an 11-core system.  That would 
> require a "PC" with four i7 CPU's on the motherboard, and I don't know of any 
> such "PC" motherboard out there.
> 
Hmmm.  MacPro.  http://store.apple.com/us_smb_78313/buy-mac/mac-pro
Hardware
        * 2.7GHz 12-core with 30MB of L3 cache
        * 64GB (4x16GB) of 1866MHz DDR3 ECC
        * 256GB PCIe-based flash storage
        * Dual AMD FirePro D500 GPUs with 3GB of GDDR5 VRAM each
        * User's Guide (English)
        * Accessory Kit 

$8199

> Does that mean RD&T cannot really support a "Sysplex installation"?
>  
You get what you pay for.  Not everyone considers $8199 "ordinary".

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