I onced tried to liberate csa memory (of an old stc that was inactive) with
a Mainview product.

Result:  IPL at 10:00am in a nationwide organization.

That's 10 years ago. Never touch that again.

On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 3:20 PM, Rob Schramm <rob.schr...@gmail.com> wrote:

> One the best sysprogs I know attempted to free some storage SQA / CSA due
> to a creeping storage condition.  There was a shory pause followed by some
> expletives and an immediate IPL of the system.  I wouldn't attempt it on
> any system I cared about unless it was to attempt to avoid an impending
> IPL.
>
> Rob Schramm
>
> On Sat, Oct 31, 2015, 10:47 AM Martin Packer <martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Right. And coming to this late...
> >
> > SMF 78-2 has all the numbers you'd usually need on this. My standard
> > reporting generates useful stuff on this - but generally I don't bore my
> > customers with it. If it's exciting, however, ... :-)
> >
> > Quite often I see SQA oversized leaving unusable 24- or 31-bit SQA. (Also
> > oversized CSA, but that's a different matter.)
> >
> > Cheers, Martin
> >
> > Martin Packer,
> > zChampion, Principal Systems Investigator,
> > Worldwide Cloud & Systems Performance, IBM
> >
> > +44-7802-245-584
> >
> > email: martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com
> >
> > Twitter / Facebook IDs: MartinPacker
> > Blog:
> > https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/mydeveloperworks/blogs/MartinPacker
> >
> >
> >
> > From:   Peter Relson <rel...@us.ibm.com>
> > To:     IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Date:   31/10/2015 13:56
> > Subject:        Re: Releasing Orphan Storage without IPL
> > Sent by:        IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>
> >
> >
> >
> > >Remember that CSA and ECSA can overflow to SQA and ESQA, so you have
> > >more air in you (E)CSA than the 2% and 3% and this might help you
> > >survive until the next scheduled IPL.
> >
> > Actually, it's the other way around, as I think of it.
> >
> > CSA can be converted into SQA. If a request to obtain storage from SQA
> > cannot find it from the defined SQA, the system may convert CSA to
> satisfy
> >
> > the request.
> >
> > It will not do the reverse.
> >
> > This is why some customers will underconfigure SQA and overconfigure CSA.
> >
> > Peter Relson
> > z/OS Core Technology Design
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