Remember one of those from the early 70s when one of our monthly ISAM update
jobs would run for almost 24 hours. One of the smarter guys around at the
time looked at it and sorted the update file, which was mainly inserts,
backwards and the job ran in less than 30 minutes, he understood ISAM
inserts really well. He was one of my colleagues that pointed me toward
systems programming.

Cheers,
Paul Gillis

-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
Behalf Of Savor, Thomas (Alpharetta)
Sent: Friday, 29 January 2016 10:18 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: COBOL v5

I'm not sure about the ISAM part.  I HATED ISAM.  If you enjoy watching your
jobs grind away seemingly forever....then you liked ISAM.  I've always loved
VSAM....maybe because I hated ISAM so much.

Ever have ISAM job that did an Update in Place (not file in/ file
out)....ugghh  !!!!!

Thanks,
Tom


-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
Behalf Of R.S.
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 5:28 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: COBOL v5

W dniu 2016-01-28 o 19:44, Charles Mills pisze:
> I cannot speak for IBM, but IMHO they may have felt that way at one 
> time, but EC 5.2 is clearly an investment on IBM's part and a 
> commitment to the future of COBOL.
>
> You can't make an omelet without breaking eggs. "Add new features" and 
> "make it go into an old-fashioned load module" are potentially 
> inconsistent requirements.
>
Well, IMHO there are two kinds of mainframe customers:

a) Legacy
We don't want PDSE, We don't want binder. We don't want SMS. We still want
VSAM passwords. We don't want VSAM. ISAM was good. We don't want FICON. We
want ESCON ...for BUS&Tag connectivity. We want 3274...

b) modern
We want COBOLE AMODE64. We want HFS/ZFS >4GB. We want DSORG=PO to be
multi-volume. We want JCL modifications. Etc.

The problem is satisfying b) means troubles for a) group.


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