That makes it difficult to get support if some people at UA don't think
we exist. Obviously other group members are not having this message
bounce problem, which would seem to point to something unique in either
Charles' Email (that Email filters might misinterpret?) or in the mail
interface between Charles' ISP and listserv.ua.edu.
John Watters' own description of his job function (Network Engineer,
wireless networking on campus) does imply he would be pretty far removed
from any direct knowledge of listserv support --it would appear the UA
Help Desk totally mis-routed this problem as a network issue instead of
an Email/listserv issue.
Since John was not really in a position to know, I vote we inform him
that not only does IBM-MAIN still exist on listserv.ua.edu, but that it
is one of the more active and successful listserv groups supported
there, with almost 7000 subscribers reported today by listserv..ua.edu.
He should pass that knowledge back to their Help Desk so both he and
their Help Desk know not to give out incorrect information or mis-route
similar inquiries in the future.
I don't know if those on the University of Alabama campus currently
have direct access to z-Architecture hardware, but there are sites that
include University of Alabama as a participant in the System z Academic
Initiative Program. Even should they lack direct access, that doesn't
preclude UA from continuing to support the IBM-MAIN list as a public
educational service to keep those in their own CIS Department and beyond
informed of IBM mainframe issues.
Joel C. Ewing
On 02/21/2016 03:14 PM, Tom Marchant wrote:
> Maybe if a few of us forward this post to Mr. Waters he will realize that the
> list is
> still active. Then again, maybe he'll make sure that it is shut down.
>
> On Sun, 21 Feb 2016 11:42:58 -0800, Charles Mills wrote:
>
>> 1. Is anyone else getting occasional bounces when posting to IBMMAIN? I have
>> started getting them sometimes. A retry sometimes produces another bounce;
>> eventually the post goes through, obviously.
>>
>> 2. I am on a small rural ISP. They do not have a roomful of high-powered
>> engineers. They recently changed e-mail server software, about coincident
>> with the start of the bounces. When I complained to the ISP they said "the
>> problem is with UA.edu, not us." I said that was not likely, they
>> successfully received hundreds of posts per day, no one else was
>> complaining, etc. He finally wrote to the DNS-listed (?) contact for UA.edu
>> and here is the response he got. Do we even exist? Have I been imagining all
>> of this? Seriously, any suggestions?
>>
>> Charles
>>
>> From: "Watters, John" <john.watt...@ua.edu>
>> To: Business Manager <mana...@mcn.org>
>> Subject: RE: failure notice
>> Date: February 20, 2016 at 5:54:17 PM PST
>>
>> This LISTSERV list was discontinued over 10 years ago, several years after
>> we got rid of our IBM mainframe computers. I was not responsible for it but
>> did know of its existence. The person who was responsible for it left the
>> University about 9 years ago. I have no idea how to get in touch with him.
>>
>> I suspect that the reason it seems to have eventually gone through is that
>> our spam filters just sucked it in and discarded it. Since I have nothing to
>> do with that process either (I am a network engineer primarily responsible
>> for wireless networking on campus; no idea why the Help Desk sent you to me
>> other than I have been here a looooong time), I cannot give you a definitive
>> answer.
>>
>> Please just remove this mailing list from your records.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>>
>> ==========================
>> -jcw
>>
>
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Joel C. Ewing, Bentonville, AR jcew...@acm.org
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