On 16Mar28:2239-0500, Tom Marchant wrote: > On Mon, 28 Mar 2016 10:35:44 -0400, Rick Troth <tro...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >On 03/26/16 14:45, Tom Marchant wrote: > >> First of all, it is GNU/Linux. > >> That is, it is the GNU operating system with a Linux kernel. > >> See http://www.gnu.org/gnu/linux-and-gnu.html > >> It is a distinction that many ignore and many others are tired of hearing, > >> ... > > > >Including moi. Stop it. It's religious. > > > >Stallman's Free Software Foundation is a pillar in the FLOSS world. But > >if the freedom they have fought for means anything, then other groups > >also should get credit. So the real name of the system would be > >Linux/GNU/*BSD/SourceForce/github/IBM/HPE/Oracle/onandonandonandon. > > > >Stallman's insistence on snagging credit for Linux runs counter to his > >supposed altruism. > > "Supposed altruism?" I don't know that he is altruistic. He has worked hard > in > support of software freedom. Indeed, that was the reason he started the GNU > project. It is also the reason he wrote the GNU General Public License (GPL). > http://www.gnu.org/gnu/initial-announcement.html > > Richard Stallman does not "Insist on snagging credit for Linux". Indeed, he > explicitly says that Linus Torvalds should get credit for his important > contribution > to the system. > http://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-linux-faq.html#justgnu > > However, Linus did not write an operating system. The GNU project did. Mr. > Stallman does believe that it is important that people understand the reasons > for the development of the GNU operating system. > http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/open-source-misses-the-point.html > > You want me to stop telling people that the GNU operating system is an > important > part of what they call "Linux". I will not stop. I happen to agree with RMS > about this. > I have not asked anyone to stop calling it "Linux", but I do point out that > there is > much more to it than the kernel, Linux. > http://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-linux-faq.html#divide > > There is another popular operating system that uses Linux for its kernel. > Android > is very different from the GNU operating system,but they use the same kernel. > That kernel is the part of the GNU.Linux system that is properly called > Linux. > http://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-linux-faq.html#linuxsyswithoutgnu
I agree with Tom on this, Rick. Long ago I observed that Linux'; i.e., the kernel's portability is in fact gcc's portability, and in these days of llvm it's still very true. I do not begrudge RMS his position in most contexts "Linux" should be "GNU/Linux"--his efforts are in many ways much more significant than Linus' to all we hold dear and our respect for that is well-earned. -- <not cent from sell> May the LORD God bless you exceedingly abundantly! Dave_Craig______________________________________________ "So the universe is not quite as you thought it was. You'd better rearrange your beliefs, then. Because you certainly can't rearrange the universe." __--from_Nightfall_by_Asimov/Silverberg_________________ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
