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Thanks Bill ________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> on behalf of Barkow, Eileen <ebar...@doitt.nyc.gov> Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 12:40 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Windows 10 Pro automatic update: was Re: Eliminating the systems programmer was Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else) To turn off windows 10 updates: ctl-alt-delete->task manager->services->wuauserv->right click->stop -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Clark Morris Sent: Monday, June 26, 2017 12:37 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Windows 10 Pro automatic update: was Re: Eliminating the systems programmer was Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else) [Default] On 26 Jun 2017 08:45:34 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main ebar...@doitt.nyc.gov (Barkow, Eileen) wrote: >I thought that the Windows 10 Update problems were due to something in the way >that Windows 10 had been mis-installed or upgraded from Windows 7 on my >refurbished computer. >It would just update and update and then claim that the updates could not be >completed for some reason. >After researching all the error msgs and performing the supposed fixes which >did not work, > I finally figured out how to turn the updates off in the systems settings and > have not had any problems since then. How did you do that? Clark Morris > >-----Original Message----- >From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On >Behalf Of Bill Wilkie >Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2017 7:51 AM >To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >Subject: Re: Windows 10 Pro automatic update: was Re: Eliminating the systems >programmer was Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else) > >The choices you get are UPDATE AND RESTART or UPDATE AND SHUTDOWN. But you >must install the updates. > > >I learned later after having numerous crashes that you can set the METERED >CONNECTION and it will stop the automatic updates. But even that comes with >some quirks. For example, I set it on my wife's machine but when she tried >printing it said she may exceed her time so it wouldn't print. I had to remove >the metered connection, do the print and turn it on again. I worry about the >day when I need to enable it again. > > >I am not against the automatic updates. I am against the ones that cause >crashes. > > >For example, they clobbered my WIFI driver after one update and I couldn't >connect. I had to hardwire to the Comcast box to be able to keep working. When >I had time, I did some searches and found they clobbered my WIFI driver. I >found where to download the new driver and it worked again. But I pity the >number of people who didn't know how to fix it and ran to Best Buy or Staples >and spent a fortune. > > >The worst part is when they tell people they need a new machine and Microsoft >makes yet more money. And nobody is saying a word about it, and IMHO it is the >biggest RIP OFF of the century. > > >Another one was It didn't come up after the updates. I researched that and >finally found that it was because you couldn't have anything plugged into a >USB port, so even the wireless mouse stopped it from coming up. On a restart, >I was only seeing those circular dots, the ones that give you a stomach ache. >I used my wife's machine to Look It up and removed the USB devices and it came >up. I asked the guys at Best Buys and Staples how much they must be making >from Windows 10 updates killing machines and they said a fortune. > > >Bill > >________________________________ > > >From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> on behalf of >Clark Morris <cfmpub...@ns.sympatico.ca> >Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2017 8:11 PM >To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >Subject: Windows 10 Pro automatic update: was Re: Eliminating the systems >programmer was Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else) > >[Default] On 24 Jun 2017 12:43:13 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main >idfli...@gmail.com (scott Ford) wrote: > >>Guys, >> >>I am a bit different. We run z/PDT on OpenSuse Leap 42.2 x64..running z/OS >>2.2 . >>But we us Windows and Linux for our LDAP with are STC agents on z/OS. I am >>basically all alone with other developers. >>My laptop runs Windows 10 Pro with a Tn3270 client and use ssh. > >Does Windows 10 Pro have the forced automatic update? Is the ability >to say that normal working hours are 00:01 to 24:00? Do you always >have the choice of Shutdown without update? > >Clark Morris >> >>I am seeing a lot of customers who lack knowledge in a lot of areas ...so I >>get pulled in .. >> >>Scott >> >> >> >>On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 4:19 PM John McKown <john.archie.mck...@gmail.com> >>wrote: >> >>> On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 2:58 PM, Bobbie Justice < >>> 00000013e2d84072-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: >>> >>> > "As I am reading this, all I can think of is Windows 10 and Automatic >>> > updates. Since accidentally going to Windows 10, I have crashed my laptop >>> > at least 10 times and spent many days and a lot of money trying to >>> recover. >>> > Be careful what you wish for." >>> > >>> > Ditto on windows anything. I've had quite enough of windows automatic >>> > updates, system restore, reboot, safe mode, reload the entire operating >>> > system, reload various drivers, reload various apps, reboot again, etc. >>> etc. >>> > >>> > No thanks. >>> > >>> >>> ?At home, I have Windows 7 Professional which I run in a VM under Linux - >>> Fedora 25. The _only_ time that I use this is to log on to work. It is >>> _required_ because work eliminated our VPN in favor of using "Microsoft >>> Terminal Server Gateway". This decision was made during the height of the >>> "We are going 100.00000% Microsoft! If it's not MS, we will refuse to run >>> it!" to the sounds of cheering by the Windows support staff.This was >>> immediately after our business-oriented CIO retired and the Windows >>> Infrastructure manager was promoted to CIO. That person is gone, but parts >>> of his "legacy" remains. >>> >>> >>> >>> > >>> > Bobbie Jo Justice >>> > Senior z/OS Systems Engineer >>> > >>> > >>> -- >>> Veni, Vidi, VISA: I came, I saw, I did a little shopping. >>> >>> Maranatha! <>< >>> John McKown >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >>> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN >>> > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > >________________________________ > >This e-mail, including any attachments, may be confidential, privileged or >otherwise legally protected. 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