[Default] On 25 Jun 2017 08:39:25 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main idfli...@gmail.com (scott Ford) wrote:
>I firmly believe criteria thinking is important in Windows,unix,Linux and >of course the "Z system" world. >Many of the same theories and practices apply. Everyday I run into people >who have a tough time with system installs , system problems because >instead of understanding how something works they assume. Because there is so much to know and understand on any platform, I have gotten myself in trouble with assumptions. I also have been able to solve problems by digging as deeply as needed. I have the background to understand many things although I realize that my knowledge is limited and I can get myself in trouble. I rely on the now retired school psychologist down the road for help with some of my hardware and communications problems. Experience and the right mind set helps. For those who are just using the computer as a tool to get something done, they can be in the same boat as grasping the simple things to us as we would be in grasping the simple things in their fields of competence and knowledge. Clark Morris > >On Sun, Jun 25, 2017 at 7:51 AM, Bill Wilkie <billwil...@hotmail.com> wrote: > >> The choices you get are UPDATE AND RESTART or UPDATE AND SHUTDOWN. But you >> must install the updates. >> >> >> I learned later after having numerous crashes that you can set the METERED >> CONNECTION and it will stop the automatic updates. But even that comes >> with some quirks. For example, I set it on my wife's machine but when she >> tried printing it said she may exceed her time so it wouldn't print. I had >> to remove the metered connection, do the print and turn it on again. I >> worry about the day when I need to enable it again. >> >> >> I am not against the automatic updates. I am against the ones that cause >> crashes. >> >> >> For example, they clobbered my WIFI driver after one update and I couldn't >> connect. I had to hardwire to the Comcast box to be able to keep working. >> When I had time, I did some searches and found they clobbered my WIFI >> driver. I found where to download the new driver and it worked again. But I >> pity the number of people who didn't know how to fix it and ran to Best Buy >> or Staples and spent a fortune. >> >> >> The worst part is when they tell people they need a new machine and >> Microsoft makes yet more money. And nobody is saying a word about it, and >> IMHO it is the biggest RIP OFF of the century. >> >> >> Another one was It didn't come up after the updates. I researched that and >> finally found that it was because you couldn't have anything plugged into a >> USB port, so even the wireless mouse stopped it from coming up. On a >> restart, I was only seeing those circular dots, the ones that give you a >> stomach ache. I used my wife's machine to Look It up and removed the USB >> devices and it came up. I asked the guys at Best Buys and Staples how much >> they must be making from Windows 10 updates killing machines and they said >> a fortune. >> >> >> Bill >> >> ________________________________ >> >> >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> on behalf >> of Clark Morris <cfmpub...@ns.sympatico.ca> >> Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2017 8:11 PM >> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >> Subject: Windows 10 Pro automatic update: was Re: Eliminating the systems >> programmer was Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else) >> >> [Default] On 24 Jun 2017 12:43:13 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main >> idfli...@gmail.com (scott Ford) wrote: >> >> >Guys, >> > >> >I am a bit different. We run z/PDT on OpenSuse Leap 42.2 x64..running z/OS >> >2.2 . >> >But we us Windows and Linux for our LDAP with are STC agents on z/OS. I am >> >basically all alone with other developers. >> >My laptop runs Windows 10 Pro with a Tn3270 client and use ssh. >> >> Does Windows 10 Pro have the forced automatic update? Is the ability >> to say that normal working hours are 00:01 to 24:00? Do you always >> have the choice of Shutdown without update? >> >> Clark Morris >> > >> >I am seeing a lot of customers who lack knowledge in a lot of areas ...so >> I >> >get pulled in .. >> > >> >Scott >> > >> > >> > >> >On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 4:19 PM John McKown <john.archie.mck...@gmail.com >> > >> >wrote: >> > >> >> On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 2:58 PM, Bobbie Justice < >> >> 00000013e2d84072-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: >> >> >> >> > "As I am reading this, all I can think of is Windows 10 and Automatic >> >> > updates. Since accidentally going to Windows 10, I have crashed my >> laptop >> >> > at least 10 times and spent many days and a lot of money trying to >> >> recover. >> >> > Be careful what you wish for." >> >> > >> >> > Ditto on windows anything. I've had quite enough of windows automatic >> >> > updates, system restore, reboot, safe mode, reload the entire >> operating >> >> > system, reload various drivers, reload various apps, reboot again, >> etc. >> >> etc. >> >> > >> >> > No thanks. >> >> > >> >> >> >> ?At home, I have Windows 7 Professional which I run in a VM under Linux >> - >> >> Fedora 25. The _only_ time that I use this is to log on to work. It is >> >> _required_ because work eliminated our VPN in favor of using "Microsoft >> >> Terminal Server Gateway". This decision was made during the height of >> the >> >> "We are going 100.00000% Microsoft! If it's not MS, we will refuse to >> run >> >> it!" to the sounds of cheering by the Windows support staff.This was >> >> immediately after our business-oriented CIO retired and the Windows >> >> Infrastructure manager was promoted to CIO. That person is gone, but >> parts >> >> of his "legacy" remains. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > Bobbie Jo Justice >> >> > Senior z/OS Systems Engineer >> >> > >> >> > >> >> -- >> >> Veni, Vidi, VISA: I came, I saw, I did a little shopping. >> >> >> >> Maranatha! <>< >> >> John McKown >> >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> >> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN >> >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
