I thought that the Windows 10 Update problems were due to something in the way 
that Windows 10 had been mis-installed or upgraded from  Windows 7 on my 
refurbished computer.
It would just update and update and then claim that the updates could not be 
completed for some reason.
After researching all the error msgs and performing the supposed fixes which 
did not work,
 I finally figured out how to turn the updates off in the systems settings and 
have not had any problems since then.

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Bill Wilkie
Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2017 7:51 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Windows 10 Pro automatic update: was Re: Eliminating the systems 
programmer was Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else)

The choices you get are UPDATE AND RESTART or UPDATE AND SHUTDOWN. But you must 
install the updates.


I learned later after having numerous crashes that you can set the METERED 
CONNECTION and it will  stop the automatic updates. But even that comes with 
some quirks. For example, I set it on my wife's machine but when she tried 
printing it said she may exceed her time so it wouldn't print. I had to remove 
the metered connection, do the print and turn it on again. I worry about the 
day when I need to enable it again.


I am not against the automatic updates. I am against the ones that cause 
crashes.


For example, they clobbered my WIFI driver after one update and I couldn't 
connect. I had to hardwire to the Comcast box to be able to keep working. When 
I had time, I did some searches and found they clobbered my WIFI driver. I 
found where to download the new driver and it worked again. But I pity the 
number of people who didn't know how to fix it and ran to Best Buy or Staples 
and spent a fortune.


The worst part is when they tell people they need a new machine and Microsoft 
makes yet more money. And nobody is saying a word about it, and IMHO it is the 
biggest RIP OFF of the century.


Another one was It didn't come up after the updates. I researched that and 
finally found that it was because you couldn't have anything plugged into a USB 
port, so even the wireless mouse stopped it from coming up. On a restart, I was 
only seeing those circular dots, the ones that give you a stomach ache. I used 
my wife's machine to Look It up and removed the USB devices and it came up.  I 
asked the guys at Best Buys and Staples how much they must be making from 
Windows 10 updates killing machines and they said a fortune.


Bill

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> on behalf of 
Clark Morris <cfmpub...@ns.sympatico.ca>
Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2017 8:11 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Windows 10 Pro automatic update: was Re: Eliminating the systems 
programmer was Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else)

[Default] On 24 Jun 2017 12:43:13 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main
idfli...@gmail.com (scott Ford) wrote:

>Guys,
>
>I am a bit different. We run z/PDT on OpenSuse Leap 42.2 x64..running z/OS
>2.2 .
>But we us Windows and Linux for our LDAP with are STC agents on z/OS. I am
>basically all alone with other developers.
>My laptop runs Windows 10 Pro with a Tn3270 client and use ssh.

Does Windows 10 Pro have the forced automatic update?  Is the ability
to say that normal working hours are 00:01 to 24:00?  Do you always
have the choice of Shutdown without update?

Clark Morris
>
>I am seeing a lot of customers who lack knowledge in a lot of areas ...so I
>get pulled in ..
>
>Scott
>
>
>
>On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 4:19 PM John McKown <john.archie.mck...@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 2:58 PM, Bobbie Justice <
>> 00000013e2d84072-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
>>
>> > "As I  am reading this, all I can think of is Windows 10 and Automatic
>> > updates. Since accidentally going to Windows 10, I have crashed my laptop
>> > at least 10 times and spent many days and a lot of money trying to
>> recover.
>> > Be careful what you wish for."
>> >
>> > Ditto on windows anything. I've had quite enough of windows automatic
>> > updates, system restore, reboot, safe mode, reload the entire operating
>> > system, reload various drivers, reload various apps, reboot again, etc.
>> etc.
>> >
>> > No thanks.
>> >
>>
>> ?At home, I have Windows 7 Professional which I run in a VM under Linux -
>> Fedora 25. The _only_ time that I use this is to log on to work. It is
>> _required_ because work eliminated our VPN in favor of using "Microsoft
>> Terminal Server Gateway". This decision was made during the height of the
>> "We are going 100.00000% Microsoft! If it's not MS, we will refuse to run
>> it!" to the sounds of cheering by the Windows support staff.This was
>> immediately after our business-oriented CIO retired and the Windows
>> Infrastructure manager was promoted to CIO. That person is gone, but parts
>> of his "legacy" remains.
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>> > Bobbie Jo Justice
>> > Senior z/OS Systems Engineer
>> >
>> >
>> --
>> Veni, Vidi, VISA: I came, I saw, I did a little shopping.
>>
>> Maranatha! <><
>> John McKown
>>
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