On Sun, 24 Sep 2017 23:39:40 -0500, Paul Gilmartin <paulgboul...@aim.com> wrote:
>On Sun, 24 Sep 2017 23:27:40 -0500, Brian Westerman wrote: >Vendors ought to suggest installation paths for their software products. Agreed. >SYS3.vendor.** seems like a good idea. Or incorporating the vendors' >registered element prefix. For some, perhaps, but almost assuredly not for all. >Shops ought to follow those vendor suggestions: Bullocks. Shops need to do what makes sense for them. There are certain aspects of software installation where vendor requirements are clear and ought to be followed without exception, or bad things can happen. Dataset names ought not to be a problem area. As for registered prefix, these ought to be incorporated into LLQ/SMPE DDDEF names. It may make sense as a mid- or high-level qualifier to some, but it ought not to be a requirement. >o It allows trying samples in the vendor documents with less tailoring > of DD statements. ServerPac and other sufficiently sophisticated installation tools can handle the bulk of this tailoring. JCL and System symbols can make what's left much easier. A system programmer ought to know how to make a few JCL or source code changes to get a sample working...and a newbie can be taught, no matter what the PHBs have read in the trade rags or social media. >o It makes programmer skill sets more portable. (But management > might consider that a bad idea.) I fail to see how learning a shop's standards impacts skill set portability. SMP/E and other system programmer skills are not null and void because one shop uses SYS3 and another uses a separate HLQ for each vendor. It just takes time to assimilate into the environment. I learned how to ride a bicycle in the US. I don't have to re-learn how to ride if I move to the UK, I just have to learn to ride on the other side of the road and look first in the opposite direction before crossing a road. There are potentially as many standards as there are shops to develop them. Software installation tools, the people that develop them, and the people that use them, ought to be flexible enough to cope. Art Gutowski General Motors, LLC ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN