There were still 3290s used as consoles in the 2000s. I wish that I had a 3290-compatible TN3270 client.
-- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 ________________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu> on behalf of CM Poncelet <ponce...@bcs.org.uk> Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2018 9:35 PM To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu Subject: Re: Weird thought for ISPF enhancement I still used a locally attached terminal in 1998 <grin>. CP On 06/06/2018 20:40, Rob Schramm wrote: > <devilsadvocate> > Do they really need to lock their TSO screen? Isn't having a windows > locktime sufficient? > > While this setting was certainly important during the golden age of > terminals... how many of us actually use a terminal anymore? In the last > 10 years? In the last 20 years? > > How many have a corporate defined windows screen lock? (I can't comment on > Linux.. maybe some others can chime in) > > What actual security is enhanced by locking a 3270 terminal that is not > addressed by locking the medium used to access the 3270 session? > (this may be turning into a rant) > > I haven't actually given this much thought or examined my own reasoning for > demanding locked sessions and auto-logoff for 3270.. but is the practice > actually providing the security benefit so many time espoused and demanded? > > </devilsadvocate> > > Rob Schramm > > p.s. If I have gone too far afield in this thread.. I can start another > one. > > > > On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 3:23 PM Clark Morris <cfmpub...@ns.sympatico.ca> > wrote: > >> [Default] On 6 Jun 2018 04:53:49 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main >> john.archie.mck...@gmail.com (John McKown) wrote: >> >>> On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 4:02 PM Barry Merrill <ba...@mxg.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I left z/OS as a development platform, going to Windows in 1996 >>>> for MXG Software totally because of the loss of everything under >>>> TSO if I didn't hit enter every 45 minutes. >>>> >>> ?The programmers here had the same complaint. We now have an IEFUTL exit, >>> implemented in CA-OPS/MVS REXX, which will extend their wait time between >>> 06:00 and 18:00 on weekdays. That way they can go to meetings, lunch, and >>> bull sessions without losing their place.? >>> >> They need to be able to lock their screens for this to be viable from >> a security point of view. >> >> Clark Morris >>>> However, it is still the primary QA test platform, but using >>>> batch instead of TSO. >>>> >>>> >>>> Herbert W. "Barry" Merrill, PhD >>>> President-Programmer >>>> Merrill Consultants >>>> MXG Software >>>> 10717 Cromwell Drive >>>> Dallas, TX 75229 >>>> http://secure-web.cisco.com/1uM-bd3j2fACf3IJZgHVHzIjVNHHwPDhpDpnGC3iivaJfovt9fQ2JOy5gugQIJwQfTiymFdfjKJlhZxLlOeKR57c0j6uqtdDWbsCZmccgXUaeeME6p9TbkYJqayDNC_ttlMdWEoSIS0CHP6QDacZiWohfXf5-mcZK8-yrCLadnh5NEtgQa35b1vw4-wsHJ83FHS0VmY1jyjOeirxeCXkyaZIpmK32CLexYmVCG1lx7g87zOk7Zo_ItKjLlkgQgDHGKcG8pBEaXAg8zPITdes3Nz2GhaWF5aJRK1U7UFDmas1i6iRNntN7blLfSFOYOFpxiJr7VygnZ8giyJPbm27fu3pw8vMJ6mzfX5NW3ExWWcg3BnjuBQ7zevcYCFM8zAsPDzdgtoQO2bVyCTWJwv_-PxlHDNM4Q9Sch-96jP1zITdAb0HpYaV0JWo-Bl-YhGwC/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mxg.com >>>> ba...@mxg.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] >> On >>>> Behalf Of Charles Mills >>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2018 3:40 PM >>>> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >>>> Subject: Re: Weird thought for ISPF enhancement >>>> >>>> Thanks. I will give that sort of thing a try. >>>> >>>> I *still* like John's weird thought. I work from a home office. I tend >> to >>>> be >>>> a little loose with the demarcation between work and not work. >> Sometimes I >>>> get up from my PC. Sometimes I come back in 20 minutes. Sometimes I do >> not. >>>> I like that whether I am gone for ten seconds or ten hours, I find >> Windows >>>> right where I left it. It would be nice if ISPF were right where I left >> it. >>>> (I understand the resource and security advantages of a forced logoff. >>>> John's weird thought would make that logoff more transparent.) >>>> >>>> Charles >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] >> On >>>> Behalf Of Jerry Whitteridge >>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2018 1:04 PM >>>> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >>>> Subject: Re: Weird thought for ISPF enhancement >>>> >>>> I use a rexx exec to "script" all my sessions every time I logon. >>>> >>>> /* REXX */ >>>> /* TRACE I */ >>>> ADDRESS ISPEXEC >>>> "SELECT PGM(ISPSTRT) PARM(SCRNAME SDSF2 PERM; =SDSF; SWAP LAST) " >>>> "SELECT PGM(ISPSTRT) PARM(SCRNAME EDIT1 PERM; =2; SWAP LAST)" >>>> /*ELECT PGM(ISPSTRT) PARM(SCRNAME EDIT2 PERM; =2; SWAP LAST)" */ "SELECT >>>> PGM(ISPSTRT) PARM(SCRNAME MYDS PERM; REFOPEND; SWAP LAST)" >>>> "SELECT PGM(ISPSTRT) PARM(SCRNAME BROWSE1 PERM; =1; SWAP LAST)" >>>> "SELECT PGM(ISPSTRT) PARM(SCRNAME TSO PERM; =6; SWAP LAST)" >>>> "SELECT PGM(ISPSTRT) PARM(SCRNAME DSLIST PERM; =3.4; SWAP LAST)" >>>> "SELECT PGM(ISPSTRT) PARM(TSO WORKPL)" >>>> EXIT(0) >>>> >>>> >>>> I call this SESSTART and simply do a TSO SESSTART as soon as I am at the >>>> Primary option menu after logging on. (In 2.2 or above I believe this >> can >>>> be >>>> done automagically). >>>> >>>> >>>> Jerry Whitteridge >>>> Delivery Manager / Mainframe Architect >>>> GTS - Safeway Account >>>> 602 527 4871 <(602)%20527-4871> Mobile >>>> jerry.whitteri...@ibm.com >>>> >>>> IBM Services >>>> >>>> IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> wrote on >>>> 06/05/2018 12:33:59 PM: >>>> >>>>> From: Charles Mills <charl...@mcn.org> >>>>> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >>>>> Date: 06/05/2018 12:34 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: Weird thought for ISPF enhancement Sent by: IBM Mainframe >>>>> Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> >>>>> >>>>> I really like it. I have an associate who sets up some elaborate >>>>> configuration of SPLITs. He is always selling me on the benefits. I >>>>> see the benefits, but one of the reasons I do not follow suit is >>>>> because of the need to re-do it on every logon. If I could just have >>>>> ISPF automatically restore my previous setup it would be great. >>>>> >>>>> Charles >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >> ] >>>>> On Behalf Of John McKown >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2018 11:51 AM >>>>> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >>>>> Subject: Weird thought for ISPF enhancement >>>>> >>>>> I'm short of sleep ... again. When I came to work this morning, my >>>>> Chrome browser was "dead". When I restarted it, it prompted me with a >>>>> message asking if I wanted to restore all the pages I had been on. >>>>> >>>>> So, what occurred to me was, "Wouldn't it be nice if ISPF could do >>>>> something like that." Now, ISPF doesn't really die often. But I think >>>>> it would be a nice feature if there were a new ISPF command, perhaps >>>>> called something like "SAVELEAVE" or HIBERNATE or whatever. This >>>>> facility would let you logoff for the day, optionally SAVEing any >>>>> changes if you're in EDIT or one or more screens. When you come in the >>>>> next day, ISPF would >>>> give >>>>> you an option to restore all your screens. Yes, there are problems >>>>> about restarting an ISPF application, but basically you could only >>>>> issue the above command at certain times, just like you can only SWAP >>>>> or SPLIT, >>>> when >>>>> you're in an DISPLAY verb. What I envision for an ISPF application is >>>> that >>>>> it would get a special RC from the ISPF DISPLAY verb which would >>>>> indicate "user wants to leave, checkpoint or abandon your processing". >>>>> The application could then only do something like ISPF CHECKPOINT >>>>> which would basically return to ISPF and ISPF would terminate the >>>>> application. The application would need to save its non-ISPF >>>>> environment (close files, >>>> etc) >>>>> before it issued the CHECKPOINT. When the user gets back into ISPF, >>>>> the application is restarted at the next instruction after the >>>>> CHECKPOINT. At this point, the application would be responsible to >>>>> restore its internal, non-ISPF maintained, status (open files, reload >>>> important variable, etc). >>>>> This would occur for each active screen which did the ISPF CHECKPOINT. >>>>> Well, that's likely getting too detailed for a general, initial, >>>> discussion. >>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send >>>>> email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN >>>>> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send >> email >>>> to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN >>>> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send >> email >>>> to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN >>>> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >>>> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN >>>> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
