I for one find this discrepancy highly disturbing unless it can be tracked down 
to an unintended difference in SORT options. Like it or not, a program should 
give consistent results on every execution wherever it's run. Whether it 
matters to the user in this particular case is not germane. It should matter to 
all of us. 

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-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Beesley, Paul
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2018 11:29 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: (External):Re: SORT not behaving consistently

My thought exactly. Apparently it does... which, as Charles Mills correctly 
says, the rest of the fields should be part of the sort key or they should use 
EQUALS.

Regards and thanks
Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf Of 
Cameron Conacher
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2018 5:37 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: SORT not behaving consistently

So are you saying that the order of records with identical keys is different 
machine to machine?
Does that matter?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 25, 2018, at 12:23 PM, Beesley, Paul <paul.bees...@atos.net> wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> Have been asked to investigate reasons for an identical DFSORT behaving 
> differently on 2 machines.
> We are transitioning a service which is currently on a zEC12 to a z14 
> machine, and the disks are currently HP9500, moving to IBM DS8886.
> When they run sort of multi-thousand records on the old machine, and then 
> running the identical sort against identical data on the new setup, they get 
> several records in a different order.
> Seems they are sorting on the first 21 characters or so, and it is doing that 
> fine, but the order of the records beyond that is a bit random, whereas on 
> the new system they are in the same order as the input.
> On the new system it's almost like EQUALS is coded, but it's not.
> Hope that makes sense.
> Any ideas what would cause this (repeatable) difference in the outcome ... 
> faster machine? Faster disks?
> Paul


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