God, I love it. Buzz words, after 40 yrs you heard many it not all.
I have been mentoring two guys and have hit these ...it gets weird when you
talk from a sysprog/dev point of view
and try to explain it to newbies ..

Regards,
Scott

On Wed, Nov 7, 2018 at 5:58 PM Charles Mills <charl...@mcn.org> wrote:

> I hired a tech writer once who had been taught in school that you should
> introduce every acronym the first time you used it:
>
> "Whizbang/390 runs on any current release of Multiple Virtual Systems
> (MVS) ..."
>
> And wanted to argue me into the ground on the point. I let him go on the
> 29th day of his probationary period.
>
> Charles
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> Behalf Of Jesse 1 Robinson
> Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 2:51 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Ask the experts about running things
>
> Let's not pass up the opportunity to observe that TSO is not 'time
> sharing', nor is it 'optional', yet it's constantly on the lips of every
> mainframer. I caution newbies (and managers and auditors) not to give much
> weight to these acronyms. Saying 'multiple virtual storage' more than once
> in a meeting marks you as a doofus. ;-)
>
> .
> .
> J.O.Skip Robinson
> Southern California Edison Company
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> Behalf Of Seymour J Metz
> Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2018 1:41 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: (External):Re: Ask the experts about running things
>
> Roughly, and in an MVS context:
>
> Address space: a context for resolving virtual addresses. There is an
> address space for each batch job, started task, TSO session and similar
> units of work.
>
> Data space: a specialized address space from which instructions are not
> executed.
>
> Subsystem: a body of code identified to MVS as a subsystem and providing
> service through the subsystem interface.
>
> Stated task: a job initiated by the START operator command rather than
> through the Initiator. In many cases the START is issued automatically
> shortly after IPL. Started tasks have identifiers starting with S or STC.
>
> Job; a unit or work. Batch jobs have identifiers starting with J or JOB.
>
> TSO: Time Sharing Option. Support for interactive units of work. Note that
> you can do Unix System Services work interactively without a TSO session.
> TSO sessions have identifiers starting with T or TSU.
>
> Process: a unit of scheduling for Unix. Depending on how the system is
> configured, multiple Unix processes may run in a single address space.
> There may b multiple threads within a process - in fact, the original name
> for threads as light-weight process.
>
> Enclave is a bit difficult describe; take a look at the Language
> Environment documentation for a start.
>
>
> --
> Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
> http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
>
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> of Peter Ten Eyck <peter.tene...@americannational.com>
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> To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu
> Subject: Ask the experts about running things
>
> For an inquisitive programmer... what is a good definition for each of the
> following? How do they relate to each other?
>
> Address space
> Data space
> Subsystem
> Started task
> Job
> TSU (TSO)
> Process
> Enclave
>
> Note: My explanation will fall short of what IBM-Main can come up with.
>
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