Neon was a product to run some DB2 on zAAPs or zIIPs. Only the workload specified by IBM could run on those processors.
On Fri, May 1, 2020 at 5:45 PM Peter Baumann <peterhbaum...@gmx.ch> wrote: > > In a lawsuit against Neon Enterprise (John Moores) the court ruled in favor > of IBM. They had to take zPrime out of the market. There was also a > permanent injunction issued against Neon. > > > > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 30. April 2020 um 15:32 Uhr > Von: "Steve Beaver" <st...@stevebeaver.com> > An: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Betreff: Re: LzLabs > Seymour > > LzLABS (John Moores) fought all his battles in the 90's against IBM and won. > > -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Seymour J Metz > Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2020 8:11 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: LzLabs > > Google for "look and feel lawsuit". It's illegal to run z/OS on an > unlicensed platform; it is perfectly legal to implement the z/OS interfaces > that you need. How well, e.g., UNICICS, runs is a separate issue. > > > -- > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > > ________________________________________ > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of > Peter Baumann [peterhbaum...@gmx.ch] > Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 11:34 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Aw: Re: LzLabs > > As their own release says, it's only 2.5k MIPS of batch COBOL Swisscom was > going to EOL anyway. > > Emulating the entire ecosystem and all the third-party tools seems like > insane. They call it re-hosting. IMHO you can re-host something written to > open standards. Otherwise you have to deal with legal issues and since it's > all propritary and patented they must have reverse engineered entire zOS. > Can you do it without infringing on patents ? And even if you can, how many > man years would you need ? Harsh reality these days is funding is becoming > scarce. > > Peter Baumann > > > > Gesendet: Dienstag, 28. 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