It's interesting that a zIIP can be described as a "speciality" engine yet the workload they run also run on a CP engine.
I thought that they are the same basically and it's just another way to sell a piece of kit and play bait and switch on pricing. Years ago we had a 9370 and a company in Melbourne we had some support from ran an AS400. Their chief was convinced that the only difference was microcode (and price!). On Sat, May 2, 2020 at 1:28 PM Mike Schwab <mike.a.sch...@gmail.com> wrote: > > https://www.eweek.com/networking/neon-settles-mainframe-software-lawsuit-with-ibm > > On Sat, May 2, 2020 at 3:18 AM Steve Beaver <st...@stevebeaver.com> wrote: > > > > Actually they Did in Europe. European courts sided with Neon > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > On May 1, 2020, at 22:07, Steve Smith <sasd...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > No. Neon was a software company. They sold a product called zPrime > that > > > allowed unauthorized usage of zIIP and zAAP for almost any kind of > > > workload. IBM already runs much of DB2 on zIIP. > > > > > > IBM only allows code to run on zIIP when you have specific contracts > that > > > allow you to for specific things. Neon either violated those, or more > > > likely reverse-engineered it, which is almost certainly a violation of > some > > > other contract they were bound to. > > > > > > I don't know any details, but it's hard for me to see how that Neon > thought > > > they were going to get away with it. > > > > > > sas > > > > > > > > >> On Fri, May 1, 2020 at 8:42 PM Mike Schwab <mike.a.sch...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > >> > > >> Neon was a product to run some DB2 on zAAPs or zIIPs. Only the > > >> workload specified by IBM could run on those processors. > > >> > > >>> On Fri, May 1, 2020 at 5:45 PM Peter Baumann <peterhbaum...@gmx.ch> > wrote: > > >>> > > >>> In a lawsuit against Neon Enterprise (John Moores) the court ruled in > > >> favor of IBM. They had to take zPrime out of the market. There was > also a > > >> permanent injunction issued against Neon. > > >>> > > >> > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > -- > Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA > Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- Wayne V. Bickerdike ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
