Not wanting to mention the politics but it is a huge mistaken belief that privatizing government is efficient use of tax dollars. Not in this case. In the short and long term me and my associate could have rewritten the application using freeware from any number of platforms in the same time period that the vendor in planning to implement their custom solution. Mainframe not withstanding.
Steve Domarski 352-368-8350 Property Appraisers Office Marion County Florida USA "Great minds discuss Ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people. " - Admiral Hyman Rickover Colin Allinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU eus.com> cc: Sent by: The IBM Subject: Re: Another long slow decline. z/VM Operating System <[EMAIL PROTECTED] UARK.EDU> 11/06/2006 11:43 AM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System Steve_Domarski Wrote: >> And so it begins, >> Management has decided after a year of thinking that the era of the >> mainframe is over here. >> ........ I think it is not just beginning but is well under way in most places. Part of this is a sort of 'religious belief' in the conventional wisdom that anything that is not a mainframe will be cheaper (more cost effective) and will run modern systems better. Any arguments to the contrary, no matter how well supported by facts, are immediately dismissed as being presented by those stuck in the past with a vested interest in retaining mainframes. It seems to be a case of 'everybody else is doing it so it must be right - don't confuse me with the facts'. Here, like many places, there is a definite plan to eliminate mainframes from the organisation at almost any cost. Luckily for me it will take longer than most places, because of heavy reliance on TPF for our core business, so I should see it to retirement. Having said all this I do agree with what Steve implies, IBM are not entirely blameless in this decline. 1. When the Z/series with IFL's was announced a subtle change in the emphasis would have made a huge difference. If this had been announced as primarily a shared LINUX server that had the additional benefit of **also** running legacy mainframe code then there is a chance it would not have been tarred with the mainframe brush. 2. Software pricing has long been the bane of mainframe economics (with some justification). It is perfectly true that development and support costs must be reclaimed but the argument for maintaining high software costs for products that are now stabilised / out of support is much harder to justify. We are currently going through a software cost reduction exercise and are looking at the most expensive products first. Some that are no longer current fall into this category so we have found free or reduced cost alternatives. If IBM had reduced the monthly cost for outdated products to a more reasonable figure then we would probably not have even questioned them - as it is we eliminate the product and both we and IBM lose. Colin Allinson (speaking for myself)